Yule C What a Deal by BJ Very interesting clauses in the Offer Sheet. This is a must read from Woj. It's almost like Morey wrote this Offer Sheet for the Nets ------------------------------------------------------------- http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-donatas-motiejunas-signs-offer-sheet-with-nets-005834304.html The Brooklyn Nets have signed Houston Rockets restricted free-agent forward Donatas Motiejunas to a four-year and likely $35 million offer sheet, league sources told The Vertical. The terms of the offer sheet are rife with protections against recurring back problems that have sidelined Motiejunas and could make it even more palatable for the Rockets to match and retain the 7-footer. The contract delivers the ability to void the final two years of the contract, as well as an opportunity to bail on the second season before the end of the 2016-17 season, league sources told The Vertical. The offer sheet has Motiejunas earning $5 million upon the signing of the contract, and the team has to decide by Jan. 10 whether to pay him another $3.5 million for the remainder of the 2016-17 season, league sources said. By March 1, the team has to pick up the option for $9 million owed to Motiejunas for the 2017-18 season, sources said. The final two years of the contract are non-guaranteed, league sources said, which means the team can cut Motiejunas loose without paying the balance of the contract. Before the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons, there’s a July 7 trigger date to make a decision on Motiejunas’ deal. Each of the four years includes $1 million in likely bonuses, and $500,000 in unlikely bonuses, sources said. The Nets delivered the offer sheet electronically to the Rockets on Friday night, and Houston has until midnight Tuesday to match the offer sheet and retain Motiejunas. Concerns over recurring back issues – which included surgery to repair a ruptured disk in 2015 – impacted the interest NBA teams had in signing Motiejunas, 26, to an offer sheet over the summer. If acquired, Nets general manager Sean Marks and coach Kenny Atkinson view Motiejunas as a power forward playing beside center Brook Lopez. Houston had been offering a deal in the $8 million range annually, but talks had been sparse between the sides for months. Motiejunas, who played 37 games a year ago following surgery, and the Rockets had been unable to come to terms on an agreement, causing the 7-footer to miss training camp and Houston’s 12-7 start to the regular season. Coach Mike D’Antoni has been eager to incorporate Motiejunas into the Rockets’ frontcourt and join the current No. 4 seed in the Western Conference. The uncertainty around Houston’s willingness to agree to a long-term deal with Motiejunas was because of his back issues. Motiejunas was examined by Nets doctors recently, league sources said, and the results gave comfort to Brooklyn to move forward with the offer sheet. For the Nets, this is the third restricted free agent offer sheet executed under Marks. July offer sheets to Portland guard Allen Crabbe (four years, $75 million) and Miami guard Tyler Johnson (four years, $50 million) were matched. With a franchise devoid of draft picks and talent, Marks has been determined to find creative ways to improve the Nets’ roster. Taking a shot at Motiejunas is a pre-emptive move on next summer’s free agent market. The Rockets had a three-way trade that would’ve sent Motiejunas to Detroit voided last season. The Pistons doctors failed Motiejunas on his physical exam because of the back.
Glad you're having a good time. I'll repeat 3/45 to 4/60 was discussed this summer with different player and team options and guarantees. There was an opportunity for DMo to sign an offer sheet. But I told you this wasn't just about money. It was about role. I also told you restricted free agency is a dirty business. It is. And you don't even know all the details of this deal. There's way more to this deal than what has been discussed so far. HeyP, you were advocating DMo sign the QO and the one year offer. You still don't get it. I told you it would be stupid for DMo to do that because it would have been. I dont gave the time nor the interest to pull up all yours and others posts where you said DMo and BJ were dumb and stupid for not signing the QO and the one year offer. I pushed back consistently on that because it simply wasnt true. You do not understand time and money. If.....DMo had signed the QO he would have put himself in a position of being benched and devalued. If that were to happen then his market as an unrestricted free agent would drop substantially and he would have had to subject himself to being traded somewhere he didn't want to be with no Birds rights into a situation with another team with no guaranteed role just so he might possibly get playing time. He was NEVER going to sign the QO. He had no reason to do that, put himself in a situation where he could be devalued then have to sign another "prove it" low ball deal next summer. By the way, the previous 4 years led us up to this point. When healthy DMi wasn't given minutes and was benched in favor of inferior players (Patterson/Terrence). He's been sensitized to politics and having to wait his turn. For basically all the same reasons he was not going to sign a two-year deal at the time it was offered with no guaranteed salary in the second season just to become essentially a super attractive trading piece for Morey. Why should he do that and allow himself to be traded to a team nut of his choosing and subsequently waived or used as next summer's trade pawn all over the association only to be dropped at the end of the summer after the free agent money pool has dried up? BJ is stupid for not agreeing to that? Nope. You are stupid if you don't understand that. Like I told you, DMo has his money. He had his money because his agents are putting him in the right place. They're putting him in a position where he controls his future and he cannot be manipulated into a lower echelon player because of team politics. How? Well if Morey matches this deal he can't trade DMo until next December. They're stuck with his deal. So they have to pay him to increase his future trade value. Or they have to drop him this year after paying a few million dollars. He will then become unrestricted midseason and he can go sign with the Nets, get his minutes and inflate his future free agent value. It the Nets (or another team) can lock him up long term to a bigger money deal. I don't know if Morey matches here. Because if he does match, then he does have to consider more strongly moving out Anderson and others for cap space next summer. And if he didn't trade Anderson then he'll have continue to consider trading Anderson after the season if he intends to go after a max free agent. So I'm not for sure if Morey matches here. And here's the kicker.....If Morey matches it could still be the prelude to a trade with Brooklyn a little closer to the deadline. With Brooklyn's cap space and their ability to claim DMo on waivers even if Morey matches, DMo could still be in a Nets uniform by March. There have been extensive discussions about Lopez. Nets want him gone. They want value for him (first round pick). By the way, the original tip I received shoot DMo and the Nets came from a poster here through my Twitter DMs back I July I believe. I was then able to verify and get more info on the situation from other sauces. Additionally, some of the Lopez info I received came from another great CF poster with great connections. I will not reveal to you either of these posters but they are great contributors here. If they want to speak up and verify what I'm saying that's up to them. As for you HP, go pick on Codman. He was pretty much telling us Gay was going to be here by the end of July. Go figger. Info is dynamic. It changes over time. Things get hot, look like they're going to happen, then they get cold. In second thought, leave Codman alone. He's legit and he's a good guy........even if midst of the info he brings us stales out and doesn't happen. I would encourage you to talk basketball here and think about the logic of what you say. Pulling the QO and the one year guaranteed two-year offer when you were doing so and calling BJ (Armstrong not Batman who was another proponent of the QO) and DMo stupid and r****ded because they weren't doing what you wanted then to do was and is stupid. Peace PS: Yule C is a reference to Nerlens Noel. Sorry you didn't pick that one up. But since its pretty much common knowledge that we are interested in Noel I'll give that to you. And yes, that means if we acquire Noel it will be a simultaneous transaction with another transaction involving Capela. Yes, we are looking at Capela/Noel trades but not for each other.
I don't get it bbh. If you're saying Dmo wanted more control and was essentially waiting for a better deal. Then how is his offer sheet a better deal? It's full of control for the team and just about all the money is unguaranteed. Are you saying there's more to this contract that we don't know yet that makes this a better deal for Dmo than the QO or the deal the rockets had on the table for him? Because this one as it's read right now locks him out of control for 4 years.
you gonna get that ish published fam?! You just went HAM! I like you specified you don't have time for this a proceeded to write a whole series and even a spinoff series. 13-7 and on the edge of a steep cliff, Yule c, Rubio, tjones, leggo
lmfaoooooo dude you ain't playin! Like you have a thread full of balls and wieners jokes and you chose to roll up in here and start dropping knowledge on people. PS Yule C is actually referring to nerlens Noel. Obviously that makes sense. Have another pack of pizza rolls, bust open some more Doritos, and enjoy the fact tjones is no longer on this team
Hold it right there! DMo was not benched for inferior players. In his first two seasons with the Rockets, DMo was the inferior player. Patterson was clearly a better player in DMo's rookie season, and TJones was clearly a better player in DMo's second season. DMo had to wait his turn because he sucked those first two seasons. And don't try to tell me he wasn't given a chance. DMo actually played in 44 games and started 14 games his rookie year. McHale gave DMo his chance, but DMo didn't perform well enough to stay on the floor. This isn't "politics" as you call it. This is the more productive player given minutes over the unproductive player. DMo just needs to put on his big boy pants and prove himself.
Glad you're having a good time. I'll repeat 3/45 to 4/60 was discussed this summer with different player and team options and guarantees. There was an opportunity for DMo to sign an offer sheet. But I told you this wasn't just about money. It was about role. I also told you restricted free agency is a dirty business. It is. And you don't even know all the details of this deal. There's way more to this deal than what has been discussed so far. HeyP, you were advocating DMo sign the QO and the one year offer. You still don't get it. I told you it would be stupid for DMo to do that because it would have been. I dont gave the time nor the interest to pull up all yours and others posts where you said DMo and BJ were dumb and stupid for not signing the QO and the one year offer. I pushed back consistently on that because it simply wasnt true. You do not understand time and money. If.....DMo had signed the QO he would have put himself in a position of being benched and devalued. If that were to happen then his market as an unrestricted free agent would drop substantially and he would have had to subject himself to being traded somewhere he didn't want to be with no Birds rights into a situation with another team with no guaranteed role just so he might possibly get playing time. He was NEVER going to sign the QO. He had no reason to do that, put himself in a situation where he could be devalued then have to sign another "prove it" low ball deal next summer. By the way, the previous 4 years led us up to this point. When healthy DMi wasn't given minutes and was benched in favor of inferior players (Patterson/Terrence). He's been sensitized to politics and having to wait his turn. For basically all the same reasons he was not going to sign a two-year deal at the time it was offered with no guaranteed salary in the second season just to become essentially a super attractive trading piece for Morey. Why should he do that and allow himself to be traded to a team nut of his choosing and subsequently waived or used as next summer's trade pawn all over the association only to be dropped at the end of the summer after the free agent money pool has dried up? BJ is stupid for not agreeing to that? Nope. You are stupid if you don't understand that. Like I told you, DMo has his money. He had his money because his agents are putting him in the right place. They're putting him in a position where he controls his future and he cannot be manipulated into a lower echelon player because of team politics. How? Well if Morey matches this deal he can't trade DMo until next December. They're stuck with his deal. So they have to pay him to increase his future trade value. Or they have to drop him this year after paying a few million dollars. He will then become unrestricted midseason and he can go sign with the Nets, get his minutes and inflate his future free agent value. It the Nets (or another team) can lock him up long term to a bigger money deal. I don't know if Morey matches here. Because if he does match, then he does have to consider more strongly moving out Anderson and others for cap space next summer. And if he didn't trade Anderson then he'll have continue to consider trading Anderson after the season if he intends to go after a max free agent. So I'm not for sure if Morey matches here. And here's the kicker.....If Morey matches it could still be the prelude to a trade with Brooklyn a little closer to the deadline. With Brooklyn's cap space and their ability to claim DMo on waivers even if Morey matches, DMo could still be in a Nets uniform by March. There have been extensive discussions about Lopez. Nets want him gone. They want value for him (first round pick). By the way, the original tip I received shoot DMo and the Nets came from a poster here through my Twitter DMs back I July I believe. I was then able to verify and get more info on the situation from other sauces. Additionally, some of the Lopez info I received came from another great CF poster with great connections. I will not reveal to you either of these posters but they are great contributors here. If they want to speak up and verify what I'm saying that's up to them. As for you HP, go pick on Codman. He was pretty much telling us Gay was going to be here by the end of July. Go figger. Info is dynamic. It changes over time. Things get hot, look like they're going to happen, then they get cold. In second thought, leave Codman alone. He's legit and he's a good guy........even if midst of the info he brings us stales out and doesn't happen. I would encourage you to talk basketball here and think about the logic of what you say. Pulling the QO and the one year guaranteed two-year offer when you were doing so and calling BJ (Armstrong not Batman who was another proponent of the QO) and DMo stupid and r****ded because they weren't doing what you wanted then to do was and is stupid. Peace
