Beverley's defense is a fraud

All you've done is make a fool out of yourself by exposing your confirmation bias (Beverley MUST be a good defender no matter what, ergo let's look for all the esoteric reasons why our defense sucks with him being in the starting line-up.)

As I have clearly pointed out, you don't get to pick and choose which data point to include or exclude at this juncture in time, because we are still in the mid-season and have no idea what a true outlier game looks like. And no, just because it is an outlier, that doesn't mean you get to discard it at your convenience, unless it's an outright error.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier#Exclusion

Deletion of outlier data is a controversial practice frowned upon by many scientists and science instructors; while mathematical criteria provide an objective and quantitative method for data rejection, they do not make the practice more scientifically or methodologically sound, especially in small sets or where a normal distribution cannot be assumed. Rejection of outliers is more acceptable in areas of practice where the underlying model of the process being measured and the usual distribution of measurement error are confidently known. An outlier resulting from an instrument reading error may be excluded but it is desirable that the reading is at least verified.

http://www.theanalysisfactor.com/outliers-to-drop-or-not-to-drop/

Despite all this, as much as you’d like to, it is NOT acceptable to drop an observation just because it is an outlier. They can be legitimate observations and are sometimes the most interesting ones. It’s important to investigate the nature of the outlier before deciding.


So in the end, it all comes down to this :

Pre-Beverley return (11 games) : 105.4 DRtg

Post-Beverley return (7 games) : 110.9 DRtg

 

nah my eye-test result is telling me that I already destroyed you mate, got anything new to say?

oh, so you can point out some weaknesses regarding stats? I can also point to 10 things wrong with eye-tests. wanna play that game?

 

I will repeat this until everyone understands :

Pre-Beverley return (11 games) : 105.4 DRtg

Post-Beverley return (7 games) : 110.9 DRtg

 

FYI, our team defense is significantly worse since Bev came back. Oh have I already mentioned that?

 

yup, getting caught lying as usual :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier#Exclusion

Deletion of outlier data is a controversial practice frowned upon by many scientists and science instructors; while mathematical criteria provide an objective and quantitative method for data rejection, they do not make the practice more scientifically or methodologically sound, especially in small sets or where a normal distribution cannot be assumed. Rejection of outliers is more acceptable in areas of practice where the underlying model of the process being measured and the usual distribution of measurement error are confidently known. An outlier resulting from an instrument reading error may be excluded but it is desirable that the reading is at least verified.

http://www.theanalysisfactor.com/outliers-to-drop-or-not-to-drop/

Despite all this, as much as you’d like to, it is NOT acceptable to drop an observation just because it is an outlier. They can be legitimate observations and are sometimes the most interesting ones. It’s important to investigate the nature of the outlier before deciding.

Not to mention that you don't get to decide which ones are 'outlier' games to throw out just to fit your narrative when the season is not even over yet, smh

 

I've already settled this issue. Heypartner made a big fuss about individual DRtg, not me. It was just one part of many data points that I provided, but he dishonestly decided to nitpick on those rather than tackling my main theme - which is that our team defense is tanking ever since Bev came back.

We played one of the best defense in the history of this franchise back in 2014-15 when Bev got hurt and only played 56 games.

Even when he was on the roster, our defense was BETTER with him on the bench rather than on the court.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/beverpa01/on-off/2015

This isn't some new phenomenon that I'm pointing out, the sample size is already sufficiently large enough to reasonably draw the conclusion that this guy is not helping our defense at all.

 

Just an FYI, you calculations are way off. Portland is 23rd best offensive team? Atlanta 12th? OKC 10th?

Don't lie just because I destroyed your precious princess Beverley.

 

sorry you clearly have an agenda to dic*k-ride princess Beverley. Bev has sucked on defense the past few seasons. We played great defense when he got hurt back in 2014-15. And this is happening again this season. All I'm guilty of is noticing patterns.