[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Moneyball said to throw the game yesterday so Utah softens the offer on Rincon.

 

Based on the criteria you are giving me to work with here I'd have to say no on Rubio. Although we have talked with Minnesota many times in the past about him I don't think a trade for him is realistic right now because of the hierarchial status of the team. I love Rubio and I know he'd get us further towards a championship than a lot of other guys. But at present this team is letting the big dog run loose off the chain. And I suspect it's going to be that way for at least the balance of this season.

While we all are highly entertained by the magic of Harden it's not the right formula for winning championships. We need:

1. Another great playmaker who can flat dish the ball to anybody without the big bag of turnover that Harden gives us.

Because Harden is unwilling to defer playmaking to a more efficient playmaker at this time, that secondary playmaker has to be able to knock down the catch and shoot 3-ball in volume as well while also being a plus defender beside Harden. These traits, low turnover efficient playmaking, ability to hit the 3, and defense, fit Goran Dragic. And there has been some minimal discussion of him, which very well could become substantive if Miami decides to tank (they should).

The above criteria doesn't really fit either Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight. (Knight is readily available.) Those guys are turnover machines like Harden is. Nor does it fit Gay, who is a black hole. It does fit Darren Collison and he has been discussed but he's not really good enough.

I'll take Dragic if he comes cheap enough in trade.

If we could add Dragic to Harden, Ariza, and Anderson while using Bev, a pick, and whatever to get Noel at the 5, that would push us a lot closer to championship contention. Brewer (or whatever expiring contract we can get for Brewer) plus Capela/McDaniels may just be enough value to get it done for Dragic. (No, Miami doesn't need Capela, but if they are tanking Capela is a great asset and Whiteside could then be traded away for assets and future cap. It's about assets and cap space for Miami if they tank.)

Now if we could continue on to the 4 spot and swap Ryan Anderson and a second rounder for Paul Millsap while keeping Dekker, Nene, Gordon, Wiltjer......Now we're talking about a team that would move into Warrior/Cav territory.

Dragic
Harden
Ariza
Noel
Millsap

Gordon
Dekker
Nene
Wiltjer
Harrell or whoever

Defense *
Shooting *
Playmaking *
Rebounding *

 

This guy really think he's an insider after so many wrong " PREDICTIONS". I blame clutchfans for feeding this troll.

 

Anyone who thinks we are trading Ryan Anderson is out of their mind. I'm sure Morey is ramping up talks for trade season (Dec 15 - Feb trade deadline), but I'd assume Anderson along with Harden, and Gordon are the last names to get brought up. Anderson likely not getting brought up because he's not going to have the value for many teams that he does for the Rockets.

Maybe Golden State wants to try for an ultimate death shooting lineup and trades us Iguoudala/filler but I doubt it... they can easily just put Durant at the 4. Few teams are a Ryan Anderson away from being the 2016 Rockets or any other crazy 3 point shooting team.

Plus Ryan has been crucial to this team even though he's not shooting the ball up to his normal percentages yet. Just the threat has made Harden completely out of this world unstoppable. Not sure many teams have a Harden type that is a Ryan Anderson away from being 2016 James Harden because of Ryan Anderson.

 

I would agree, no one is going to want Ryan Anderson and his ridiculous contract. It's something the Rockets are just stuck with.

 

I bet Sacramento would take him off our hands because they can't draw free agents.

 

I wouldn't necessarily say "stuck with" but I will say he wasn't signed with to notion that he would be shopped or a team would have any interest in trading for him. If his contract was at or below market value the Rockets wouldn't have been able to get him in FA. That's how UFA goes. Takes a few years to appreciate in value to where there is demand at relative cost.

I would however urge folks here to judge his value in combination with Harden's (and to a certain extent Capela's) production. He's not meant to produce his cost value in a vacuum as it relates to his shooting percentage and per game averages. His value as he was signed was as it relates to the production his presence on the floor would open up to more important team contributions.

 

This times a thousand times. We didn't sign Anderson for 20M, because of what he can do as an individual player. We signed him for 20M, because of what he can do for Harden and more importantly, what Harden can do with him on the team.

 

Let's also look more intently at Capela's production too. Is Capela producing nearly what he is in P&R's with Harden is Ryan Anderson isn't being guarded deep well beyond the 3 point line?

What's Capela making this year.... 2 mil? You average out the production of Capela and Anderson and its 10 mil per for that front line.... That's good combined value just in the production you are getting for those two players.

I would argue he's doing wonders for Capela's career to a somewhat lesser extent just as he did in Dwight's best pro year back in Orlando along with Rashard Lewis. Capela isn't 2013 Dwight, but he's seeing just as much space as Dwight saw if not more with Harden being Harden in the P&R too.

 

I am assuming from the like that you agree with my post and your post is poking fun at BTG?

 

I bet if we paid Dmo that type of money BTG and crew wouldn't be saying what they are saying about Anderson.

 

Its incredibly interesting to see the difference in how the NBA guards a real stretch 4 by reputation vs. how they guarded someone like D-Mo from the 3 the past couple years. Reputation and respect from the 3 sure as hell matters doesn't it?

Not a knock on D-Mo or anything but it just shows the power of reputation he hadn't earn yet to really help open up the offense as a stretch 4 in training.

 

I definitely agree that Anderson is overpaid, though FA's are generally overpaid unless they are stars/superstars, then they are underpaid for what they bring to the table.


I have complete faith in Morey based on both his prior cap wizardry and the incoming rise in salary cap that if we need to sign an incoming marquee FA, Morey can make that happen.

 

Nonsense, 20 mil a year would be completely ridiculous for DMo just as it is for rich man's Wiltjer. With DMo, 12 mil a year maybe, but anything over that, I wouldn't like it as a Rockets fan. I understand what rich man's Wiltjer brings to the Rockets by way of 3 point shooting and spacing, and I think that can be a very good thing, but unfortunately he just doesn't do anything else well on the basketball court so really he's better suited as an off the bench type. Paying 20 mil a year for that, even ignoring how injury prone he's been his entire career, is craziness.

 

To add, the salaries will be out of whack until they are smoothed out after a few years of the cap stabilizing. As you said, any non all star/super star will be overpaid and especially after cap increase.

 

Beyond the arc, hes a decent player. Inside the arc..meh

 

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