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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Chopped, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. Tenchi

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    What he said in the Memphis interview is that he nor his agent had contact with anyone.

    He reaffirmed that with Dan Patrick.

    So, he wants us to believe that they hammered that deal out in a space of 5 and a half hours starting Friday night into Saturday morning.
     
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    He touched down, got a call, met with UT for the first time with his agent who was also available and talking to them for the first time, hammered out and signed a deal whilst not talking at LSU at all.

    If I had a nickel for every time I moved to another million dollar job in a span of a couple hours...
     
  5. Icehouse

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    Oh, well that's pure BS then.
     
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    That's not what he said at all. He said the rumors are false but never said he nor his agent didn't speak to anyone. Not in that interview at least.
     
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    My bad, it was what he had told his players prior to the Memphis game.

    No video of that exists, of course, but it's what several players have came forward to corroborate.

    Seems weird that he would hem and haw and get all lawyerly when pressed about his specific dealings with schools when the press asks him, but when his players ask him he bald faced lies to them.
     
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    My wife, who has no interest in sports walks by the TV during this interview and says "Wow. that dude looks hostile!".,
     
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    Ed Oliver tweeted out, "why you lie to us coach?"
    Other players have said the same thing.
     
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    Tilman is fired up! I love it. :)
    Nice interview above.

    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2016/11...-bought-out-from-university-of-houston-again/

    Chairman of the University of Houston board of regents and restaurant mogul Tilman Fertitta did not mince words when talking on Tuesday to Sean Pendergast and Ted Johnson on The Triple Threat on SportsRadio 610 about the Houston Cougars football head coaching vacancy. Fertitta, the star of “Billion Dollar Buyer” on CNBC, is a huge supporter of the University and it’s athletic programs, paying for upgrades to Hofheinz Pavillion and having it renamed Fertitta Center.

    The school is looking to fill after Tom Herman left for the University of Texas after two years and a 22-4 record as head coach of the Coogs. Herman is the third coach to have a winning record with the school to jump to a power five conference school in the state of Texas in the last 10 years. Fertitta is determined to stop that trend.

    “It’s alright, it’s business, but I’m not going to accept it this time,” Fertitta told the Triple Threat about coaches leaving for bigger schools. “Internally we’re talking about, we’re not going to let someone come in here…I’m not going to let them go 10-2 next year and somebody steal them. I don’t care if there is a football coach out there listening to this, you’re not going to get your contract bought out for a couple of million dollars by a bigger school and be gone. It’s going to be a big enough number, you’re going to have to have won a national championship if they want you, because they’ll pay anything.”

    Herman had a $2.5 million buyout that allowed him to leave his contract with Houston to go to Texas for a contract reportedly over $5 million a year.

    “This whole college football, which the agents started a couple of years ago,” Fertitta continued, “(the school) can sign you to a five-year contract and if we fire you, we have to pay you. But if you decide to quit, (the school) only gets a little bit buyout. That isn’t happening again at the University of Houston.”

    Almost every college coaching job has a buyout clause it so that coaches can go to a school they desire more, but Fertitta is determined to not let that happen at the University of Houston anymore.

    “We have to have a buyout, but it isn’t going to be a little buyout,” Fertitta said. “If somebody wants (a coach) they’re really going to have to pay for them. If a coach doesn’t want that or an agent doesn’t want to do that then they shouldn’t even apply for the University of Houston job.”

    The chance to keep a coach around for the long haul at UH was not the only thing Fertitta was fired up about during the interview. UH was hoping to gain entry into the Big 12 this past season, moving up from the American Athletic Conference to a power five school could have seen the Coogs retain Herman and make a serious run at National Championships in the years to come. But as one of the 11 schools looking for admission into the ten team Big 12 Houston was left out, along with the other ten schools. The Big 12 didn’t feel like any of the schools qualified to be in the conference. The process didn’t sit well with the Billionaire Houston supporter.

    “It was a sham by the Big 12,” Fertitta said. “Why didn’t you vote in the beginning ‘we are going to expand.’ But to sit there and let a billion administrators and students and alumni get all excited and say ‘none of you all qualify.’ When I can take the ten schools in the Big 12 and (Houston) can take you in every category there is: academically, facilities and athletics, and show you that we are better than at least one or two of the schools in every category; it was a sham it was poor leadership by the Big 12. But what was good for us is the national media gave us a lot of attention because they were so sure we were going to get in.”

    UH had a great year in their non-conference schedule this year, beating Oklahoma and Lousiville when both teams were in the top 5 of the college football rankings. If the Coogs had run the table in their conference they would likely be looking at becoming the first non-power five school in the College Football Playoff. But because Houston is not in a power five conference, and any loss hurts a teams’ chances at the playoff the Coogs have had a hard time getting teams to schedule them.

    “People don’t understand that when you see the Texas A&M and the Alabamas schedule these weak non-conference schools,” Fertitta said. “They play division two, division three, that’s who they want to play if you’re a power five. ‘Why am I going to play another powerful school when I have to play good schools every week if I’m in the Big 12 or ACC or SEC.’ We have a horrible time struggling to [schedule] playing the power five because they know that Houston can come up and kick their butts. It’s a huge issue for us. A huge issue.”

    The Cougars named defensive coordinator Todd Orlando the interim coach in the absence of Tom Herman.
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    Are Les Miles & Charlie Strong on your radar?

    Are both on a long list? Yes. I can't tell you if they're on a short list. Charlie is a great coach who went into Texas & got rid of all the bad apples. It's a shame he didn't win. I'm shocked...I thought they would blow TCU out. His team wanted him to stay. It was shocking that you let TCU come in and beat you by 3 TDs at home. That's an alarm guys. It's scary. Flat out scary to be at Texas and have gone 5-7.

    If you were to briefly summarize the Tom Herman era?

    Tom walked in and brought in a great staff. Tony Levine did not have good assistant coaches because he was a ST coach but he was a great recruiter. Houston had great athletes last year, part of a great recruiting class. Tom showed them love but hired the right coordinators. That has a lot to do with it. It put us on the national map. Tom won the big games. Everyone knows about UH football. He had two great seasons & put us on the map again as a national powerhouse. I thank him for it and wish him good success.

    (Briles, Sumlin, Herman) Has UH reconciled this dynamic that this may be the way it goes for them? The inevitability of bigger & better. Do you accept that?

    No. It's alright, it's business but I won't accept it this time. Internally, we are talking about it. We are not gonna let someone come here, because whoever we bring in will be talented & let them go 10-2 and someone steal them. I don't care if there's a coach listening to this, you won't get your contract bought for a couple million by a bigger school & be gone. It's gonna be a big number that you're gonna have had to win the national championship if they want you. This whole college football, which the agents started a few years ago where we can sign you to a 5-year contract & we fire you, we have to pay you. If you decide to quit, I only get a little buyout. That isn't happening again at the UH. We're gonna have to have a buyout but it isn't gonna be a little buyout. If a coach/agent doesn't want that, they shouldn't apply for the UH job.

    Big 12 membership.

    The value was the national media was so sure UH was getting in because we qualified in every aspect. It was a sham by the Big 12. It's like us saying let's do research on a football coach. Everything's out there. You knew who you were looking at to put in. Why didn't you vote in the beginning? But to sit there & let a billion administrators, students & alumni get excited and then none of you qualify? When I can take the 10 schools in the Big 12 in every category there is and show you we're better than at least 1-2 schools in every category? It was a sham & poor leadership of the Big 12. What was good for us, the national media gave us a lot of attention because they were so sure we were getting in. Even all of them, the writers & talk radio that I talk to thinks it's the biggest sham ever put on by a conference.

    How does UH get in now? If you're not in a P5 conference, the deck is stacked against you to ever make it into a 4-team playoff.

    First off, I disagree with you on that. If Houston went undefeated, they would have been in the final four. They were the 6th ranked team, lost to Navy, went to 11. Since we lost to Navy, every school in front of us but Alabama has gotten beat. If Houston didn't blow the SMU game, forget the Memphis game because we were out of it by then, would have been sitting at 4 or 5 when we played Louisville. Houston, even with the loss to Navy, we'd be in the middle of it today. Navy can beat anyone. You can win the Final 4 in basketball. This whole Power 5/non-Power 5 is a bunch of baloney. Where it hurts is we're not able to recruit as good and you don't have the athletic budget because of TV. Other than that, there's nothing that stops us from getting there at all.

    Out of conference, Oklahoma & Louisville.

    That's a great question. When you see A&M & Alabama schedule these weak non-conference schools, that's who they want to play if you're a Power 5. Why play another powerful school when I have to play good schools every week. We have a horrible time, struggling to playing P5. They know Houston can kick their damn butts. It's a huge issue for us.
     
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    I don't know how Herman's thin skin is going to fly in Austin.
     
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    Wow he went in!! Lol

    And yea sounds like Art may be forgiven. Still seems too soon
     
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    What I think is more alarming and scary is that you would consider Briles in his current situation over Strong. Given what baggage Briles brings vs Charlie who was in a bad situation at UT. I would have to go with Strong. Briles may be a little bit better coach, but he is to hot right now. In my opinion the pattern of bringing in players who had sexual assault pass at other schools was the give away. In my opinion these coaches know these players backgrounds(especially transfer students) and I wouldn't want to be the first school to bring Briles back. Sorry AB. TF get your mind right, think about the message it sends to the students and student athletes both male and female.

     
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    Agreed, Briles is not an option. Hopefully, Khator can be the voice of reason on this. Seems like Fertitta's priority is winning, and maybe he doesn't care so much about sacrificing our school's public image to do it. Winning can cure a lot of things, but not sure it can cure this.
     
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    The body language tells a different story. Seems like another example of him wanting full control on when a story breaks about his new job on his terms to his liking.

     
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    TF unleashed. He's definitely not letting something like his happen again and put all potential candidates on notice. I wonder if his candor scared any coaches off hoping to coach a year or two and leave.

     
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    We are still ranked... so some silver lining lol.
     
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    Really like TF being a straight shooter but he needs to stay away from the Briles talk. It would be a terrible look for UH to even consider him IMO.
     
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