[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

I still want DMo to sign. He gives us another look in being able to create in the post and draw a double team, but unlike Dwight he is not in a position to demand touches and he is able to swing out to take the corner 3 and is a great and very willing/unselfish passer for his position. He's also a very solid positional defender.

I don't think he'll be chemistry problem on the court because he's not in a position to demand plays go through him, and by nature because he's an unselfish player.

 

Here is a pic from when the had lunch together.



DD

 

I think there has actually been an inaccuracy that anyone keeping up with this would spot in just about every one of your posts in this thread. Here it is that D-Mo is not a malcontent when everyone and their sister is reporting he's malcontented. In the last one it was that D'Antoni made assurances of starting to D-Mo while they were pursuing a starting 4. In the one before that it was a weird suggestion that they stop emailing (no reason to believe they are) and sit down face to face (no reason to believe they haven't).

Everyone from 'holic to me (I think that covers the broad spectrum and I think I could probably include heypartner) knows that D'Mo is a malcontent (look it up - I don't think you quite have the definition of the word down) because he has said as much. He, D-Mo, has said he is "shocked" and "hurt" (I think those are the words, if not they're close). That is malcontentedness. 'holic even 'reports' he feels "betrayed."

Of course he's a freaking malcontent right now. Everyone but you already knew that. Why do you argue over silly things and settled matters? I'm cop to being condescending when someone posts the same things, too often wrong, over and over again all day long until they have 100,000 posts and haven't quite managed to say anything.

This has nothing to do with inside knowledge. You're wrong according to anyone/everyone's assessment of the situation. When you don't get that when it's explained to you twice, yeah, I get condescending. It's not my best trait and I don't defend it. I know it isn't nice and it's not my intent to have a fight with anyone.

You just make it impossible to set the record straight because you always insist on being right no matter how much you've been proven wrong. It's hard not to bite on that bait.

 

You cannot be this daft. I didn't ask you to prove they met. That doesn't mean anything. You claimed D'Antoni offered him a starting slot. Is this picture meant to be proof of that or are you just being obtuse on purpose?

 

Sigh - sure he is MAD now, but I was responding to you saying he would be in an ASIK type of situation where he is basically a cancer.

I don't see it that way - you keep moving those goalposts....I do agree he is pissed off and not feeling valued - I just don't believe that will carry over to the basketball court - I think once he signs (IF HE SIGNS) he will fall in line just fine.

No, it doesn't but I recall him saying that DMo would be the main PF after that meeting, maybe it was from DMo himself...but I recall reading it somewhere that was not here.

And stop calling people "Stupid" by canvassing it with the word "Obtuse".....you keep on escalating - you sure play hard to like...really well.

DD

 

Sigh, indeed. You didn't just say you thought he would be happy once he signed here; you said he had never been and was not now a malcontent. That's just false.

You gave a list of "facts" that began with D'Antoni promising D-Mo a starting spot. If that were true, this ENTIRE situation would be different and he'd have real cause for complaint though nobody is guaranteed a starting spot but a star and D-Mo isn't one. When I asked you for a link to back it up you gave a picture of the two of them smiling. Yes, that is obtuse and stupid both. Mostly obtuse, but sure, also stupid.

I'm not arguing I'm always a nice guy. Sometimes I get irritated and am mean to people. Sometimes I don't just disagree with someone; rather, I know they are wrong and everyone knows they're wrong. The first time, I only point that out. If the person doubles down on their wrongness I'm not above saying they're being stupid.

And I never suggested I KNEW that D-Mo would be unhappy if he signed here and was playing. I said I thought he would be. When you post so many things as "facts" that are demonstrably wrong, is it okay if I post an opinion without you replying that D-Mo won't be a malcontent because he's 'never shown signs of being a malcontent' especially when that's so plainly wrong? When he is the picture of a malcontent right now and has been the entire offseason. I didn't guarantee he'd be an Asik. I said today was the first day I worried enough over protecting our chemistry that I didn't want the distraction of a player that has shown us he will be unhappy with any offer Morey has signaled he'd be willing to make. That's a pretty darn defensible opinion. But you didn't reply with a different opinion--instead you said he has never been malcontented, which is just patently wrong.

I can step outside myself enough to say I'm a dick sometimes. I am. Not proud of it but I can be a dick. Can you step outside of yourself enough to admit it when you're wrong? Because I don't think you can. But if you'd like to try, here:

Take back the D'Antoni promise and edit it out of your post if you can't back it up. (No, a picture of them smiling does not do that.) Stop saying he's never been a malcontent when the only reason he hasn't signed is that he's malcontented. Stop making stuff up like 'they should meet face to face' and 'stop emailing' when your imagination of how they're communicating is only that: imagination. And stop sticking to a stubborn argument just to fight. I don't come here to post about you. I'm here to post about the Rockets.

 

D-Mo was wanted here no doubt, but he should realize that QO was the best team can offer ,and 7 Mil really after last year? Just look what happened to our rooster of last year, after our DEFENCE coach took the job after 11 games. The only guy who got paid was Dwight, the rest o well. min.vet. contract ,o Harden tone guy got lost in China. So 7 mil on a table was FOR 2014-2015 EFORT. And now it's gone...

 

Dmo told he would have a signifcant role with the team. Is where I said main PF - not starting PF, but I concede that is what I meant.

DD

 

Incidentally, this is the post that started all this between you and me, DD.

This was how you began your response. In other words, I expressed what I think was a fairly reasonable opinion and you had a need to fight over it so you posted this:

I wasn't wrong because it was an opinion. And any conjecture was pointed out as such by me. You were flat wrong on the malcontent thing but you doubled down like you always do. If I'm being a jerk after however many posts in which you continued to say he'd never been a malcontent then switched to he "wouldn't" be one and then accused ME of moving the goalposts. You've done that a lot here but I haven't even done it once.

Maybe you should read my post again. It was your rudeness that prompted me to be rude in return.

 

Talk about moving the goalposts!!!

Significant role is what everyone has said. Significant role does not equal "main PF." Nene has a significant role. So does Dekker. Your post was highly inaccurate.

 

My vote goes towards Batman Jones.

Solid argument all around

 

Congrats on your many accolades,lol,im sure someone is very proud! Maybe you should have kept reading and responded to the post entirety before commenting if that's the case. First off,this is a situation that is highly unlikely at this point and any response honestly is not necessary.Smart men are smart enough to know when to shut their months. Especially when it's a hypothetical and who knew Capela would blossom so quickly? In deeper context to my statement,i was foreshadowing a trade in the works for a player like a Noel. But no shade big fella! We all have something to say.

 

Hey man, you were the one that started with the insults. All I said was Capela was untouchable.

 

Working with Hakeem sometimes help that cause.

Being a student of the game as well as being young can rush that process as well.

Credit to Capela for putting in the work during the offseason.

He's been in the league for what 3 years now. The third year is when most players come into their own.

Harden's playmaking ability and great chemistry with Capela is doing the young man some much needed justice.

Those are the reasons why he's blossomed this season thus far.

 

Lol. Ok

 

I'm very happy with his progress so far. I think he is a great match with harden and could become a prime Tyson chandler in the future. And he has a great contract. But that's a little different from him being untouchable. What makes you think he is untouchable or close to it? Hope all is well with your treatments.

 

Capela is already expendable.

 

I disagree with this. If you want to say he's not a superstar or is limited that one thing, but where are we getting a pogo stick center who is mobile and a pretty good rebounder and perfect for pick and roll easily? On that contract? Maybe if we get a healthy Tyson chandler, but he costs 7 times more.

 

DMo is not a malcontent.

 

The quickness with which he's improving his game. He was a hacking liability and he worked at FT's and he's not one anymore. He's getting better almost by the game. His ceiling is impossibly high. I've felt he was our only untouchable other than Harden since the end of his rookie year. He's only gotten better and better and better. And you can't teach height. It would be ridiculous to trade him before we actually know how well he can play. He has not maxed out his potential at all but unlike D-Mo or TJ he doesn't seem to take steps backwards. He's consistently reliable on both ends of the floor and he's a very young, unformed player. He has a lot of getting better to do. I don't say he will be as great as Hakeem at all but I will say that he is reminiscent of a young Akeem Olajuwon, particularly in how rapidly he's getting better.

I don't know if he's untouchable to Morey. I can only speak for myself. I have told Morey on repeated occasions I think he should be untouchable.