Who is this Jesse you are referring to? Are you referring to Teddy? I thought they were "hinting" that Teddy IS Wyatt. I believe the female host is "aware" because she was one of the hosts that found the end of the maze (the church). Remember when Delores walked into the church, that female host was one of the hosts that was already in the church. These hosts are no longer on scripts, just like the Ghost Nation Indians. I don't think there is anything left to tell about Elsie. She was killed by Bernard and that was the end of that story-line. Why Ford wanted her killed? I think it is because she was going to expose his secret hosts and potentially uncover his secret hideout and plans. I think for the hosts, the reward for finding the end of the maze is the "unlocking" of the human commands in addition to finding "consciousness". They are no longer bound to those commands. I think that is reason the Ghost Nation Indians, like the female host, were not controllable by Stubb's commands. This is also the reason they kept saying the maze wasn't meant for MIB.
I think you may have missed the part where Maeve threatened Bernard and forced him to put her back to service. Bernard is the person with the highest authority behind Ford in WW, so I doubt there is a system in place where it requires checks & balance. I believe it was a "given" that Maeve had gained something similar to admin status in the system, allowing her to issue voice commands.
The t I honestly believe Ford when he said he didn't have Bernard hurt anyone else or that Bernard didn't actually kill Elsie. Something happened there. All we see is Bernard dragging her. No dead body. Ultimate plot twist would be that it was actually Arnold that got her and he's still alive and she's using the Ghost Nation to draw out Studd for help.
A little of both of those and then some from earlier flashbacks where she sees herself shooting up a town (probably sand town). I think it was the episode where she and William find the soldiers that have been killed by ghost nation and one of them is still alive. I also got interrupted while posting that last bit and meant to add that I don't necessarily think she is "Wyatt" per se, just that she is going to end up being the one shooting the town up and not some random Soldier looking guy. I haven't really decided if I think Teddy is helping her or not, but going back to one of my very early theories, I did say she was going to go crazy and start shooting things up and he was going to have to decide to help her or not. Didn't realize I may be somewhat accurate just on the wrong time line.
That was in the last episode where she went sysop on him. I mean from an early episode where she was set to be put in the dungeon by Theresa(?) but Elsie(?) put a stop to it. It just seems odd that such a well known host like Maeve has a big incident leading to decommission and then everyone forgets about it.
Yes, I meant Teddy haha. When I see Teddy I see that Geico commercial with the girl crying for a cowboy named Jesse that runs into the logo lol. Interesting. So is Ford just being manipulative when he strongly reminds people that the hosts aren't real people and stresses how important it is to keep wiping them? Or does he maybe not know about the ones who achieved consciousness? Has to know, because the woman was there to greet William when he arrived at his timeline and that is already after the death of Arnold. I thought it was done with her as well, but now we have Stubb going to find her. Why bother with that if there isn't more to what's going on with her?
It's confirmed now. MIB is happening in the show's "present" timeline with old Ford, Bernard, Teresa (dead), Elsie and Charlotte the board member. William and Logan are 30 years ago. They've given us enough glimpses now to see that without SAYING it.
No they already brought up that she was on leave. He didn't just randomly go check on her, her cell phone thing sent out an alert to home base so he went to investigate. There's no reason to bring that story back if it doesn't lead to something.
"on leave" pretty sure that was just to let you know that was the cover story for why no one is freaking out about a high up employee going missing from an isolated job site. This show is wrapping things up a bit too neatly. They seem to have a problem of a huge park where no body really does anything and they are mostly morons except Dr. Lecter. One half western, one half sci-fi office drama can't lose with that combo. But some small niggles are starting to creep on me. Probably because I dislike doing the whole, plot speculation thing. Dolores and Teddy story is gone. New narrative story is going cold. This type of TV series is hard to watch weekly. I think it will be much better as a binge. Right now have 6 weeks where seemingly pivotal characters are MIA.
The church seems to be a collection point for Arnold in the past timeline for hosts breaking down mentally, and a collection point for Ford in the current timeline so he can keep them under control when they start hearing voices. There's really no indication why the hostess would make her way to the church though. So I'm a little confused on that point.
Church Incidents: So it seems like there are 2 incidents at the Church. One with Arnold and Delores where Delores kills the entire town and Arnold, and the hostess chic ( as a wild west woman ) some 35 or more years ago. They all get re-purposed and the entire thing covered up like it didn't happen. Arnold is orchestrating. Then a second involving William, 30/35 years ago, where Wyatt, Logan and his crew of union soldiers are likely to get massacred. Probably by William. But not sure if this is covered up because this is likely how the Foundation is formed. Not sure who orchestrates this. And now you have a third about to happen with Teddy and the hostess Chic involved. With Teddy either in the role of Wyatt or William from the 2nd incident. This is likely being orchestrated by Ford. By all indications, Teddy and the Hostess Chick have already found the center of the maze. So this incident will be very different.
QUESTION: During his flash back . . .Benard and Theresa are in bed. Bernard is talking about why the host talk to each other Bernard says they do it to practice being human like or something Theresa says: Is that what you are doing now? Then . . . She freezes for a moment . . . .. Did I see that correctly? Rocket River Was Theresa a host as well?/??
^ I believe that was just him watching his dream and being able to view it differently, same with when he was reliving his memory with his son.
You did. My first thought when Theresa was killed was that she had to be human. Otherwise why not just shut her down. But after Bernards reveal, one could certainly have doubts now. If she is a robot it would plug the hole on why she could not see the photo of Arnold nor recognize she was sleeping with Arnold. It would explain the sex bed dialogue and her freezing. And it would explain da odd interaction with Ford, like he knew her all too well. He knew her even better than she knew herself. Afterall, there had been many of her before. It would not in the least bit surprise me if we see her in the Church at some point.
1 year ago: One thing I slept on was that at the exact moment that Maeve starts as head mistress at the brothel saloon, the MIB's wife committed suicide. I don't know what that means. but I bet it means something. Edit: I figure it goes like this... Wife commits suicide MIB come back to Park for first time in a while MIB kills Maeve out of anger Maeve recommissioned and starts as head mistress at Brothel Maeve is stressed and off tilt because of her daughter dying. So I'm wondering now if William took Delores off site after the massacre and married her 30 years ago. But all the stress of being away from home ( almost as a prisoner ) and Arnold's code kicking in again eventually caused her to commit suicide. MIB now has a motive to figure out why Delores killed herself. Delores would not have gained consciousness yet as evidenced by the suicide. So he wants the Maze for that reason. He reinserts her into the Park so that he can give her consciousness. And that gives him a motive to do what he's doing. Ford is down with it because he wants to plug these holes too. Teddy Love is inserted as is Delores to get to the bottom of it. Just throwin it out there. The one glaring hole is that the best way for William to get ownership of the company and save it is to marry Juliet, Logan's sister. Otherwise, the Logan's would be pissed at him and probably fire his ass. If that's the case, which is cleaner, then we need to figure out how his wife died...
Hate to say it but it seems like Logan and the QA guy are the only sane people on this show. Logan because he realizes this is all a game and that he can mess around however he wants. He's the only guy who can come back to the real world and be normal again. The interaction with William was great because even though those two did bad things to each other in the park he still was willing to forgive William. The QA guy is smart, he is close to catching on to the suspicious events that have been taking place in the park. Really hope he has a pay off and doesn't just get killed by the Ghost Nation. The Maeve storyline still makes no sense to me and is boring. How can she all of a sudden command Bernard? How does she know that Bernard was a bot in the first place? I thought Bernard was specially designed by Ford to be his assistant who can only respond to Ford's commands. It would make no sense if he allowed Bernard to be controlled by anyone other than himself. The Maeve storyline is just a bunch of plot conveniences that allow her to be successful. I hope Ford squashes Maeve ruthlessly in the season finale. I don't need this storyline in season 2. Also how does present day Dolores make it to the church? I believe that last time we saw present day Dolores she was getting raped by MIB and finds the gun? Has she just been walking to the church for the whole season?
