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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

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    Dmo never had an elite post game.

    It may have been flashy but he turned the ball over too much and never drew fouls, making it average at best.
     
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    If he wasn't an elite post player, he clearly had the best hookshot in the NBA, leading the league.

    That in itself is a huge weapon to have in the playoffs.
     
  3. larsv8

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    Dmo is not a huge weapon.

    Average player, who may or may not be good in the playoffs. Thus far, he has not been.
     
  4. Htownballer38

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    We would never know huh. And to be the best at something or be considered elite, you have to at least do it for more than 2-3 months.

    None of yall wanted to call Harden elite in his 1st season here. But want to say Dmo post game was elite or the best in the game.

    Scola's post game was way better than Dmo's two- three month stretch. But was Scola considered elite.

    Dmo love around here is unbelievable.
     
  5. Htownballer38

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    Man exactly
     
  6. JoeBarelyCares

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    So you are saying Brewer and DMo end up in Philly by Christmas.
     
  7. dobro1229

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    I'm probably not the first, nor the last person here to lump together the opinions of yourself and Bobby ;)

    Thanks for the clarification. I do recall that you thought the Rockets should trade D-Mo & and Jones starting back in Nov of 2013 to instead start Casspi so I guess it should be noted to your history D-Mo objectivism that differs from Bobby's opinion on the matter.
     
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  8. Snow Villiers

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    Well said.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    Well I will say that my previous statement (about PT & role) are assuming that the roster is how it is now. We all know that health will be an issue at some point during the season, and I'm more than confident that if D-Mo is signed, he will get PT.

    What I am saying though is that its not a given what that role will be, he will have to earn PT, fit in to the current dynamic that is revolved around Harden's dominance currently, and there might be better options for winning short term.. such as Nene.

    I think right now Nene is better for this team to win games at the backup 5 spot. D-Mo is probably better than Harrell though. I guess its a difference in opinion on who is better vs D-Mo & Nene but it will probably be moot when Nene suffers an injury... assuming D-Mo is resigned at some point this season.

    Its not a big deal IMO though. Morey would say that having too many good bigs is a good problem to have, and having good health is a good problem to have. I wouldn't speculate on future trades like Hollic is doing with Anderson, etc. I think we are seeing the value of Ryan Anderson by simply being on the court creating space for Harden & Capela. Plus I'm not entirely sure that teams are going to love that contract on the trade market given how he's playing. Meaning... do we have a Harden on our team that would be a Harden if only we had Ryan Anderson to spread the floor at the 4???... I dunno about that.

    I personally don't think we will see a busy trade season for the Rockets. I wouldn't even anticipate Brewer being heavily shopped honestly (draft day trade more likely to clear up his salary). I think Morey is going to be more focused on free agency next summer to add another quality player to Harden next Summer. Right now, they are looking to have around 14 million in cap space. They can likely move Brewer this Summer in a draft day trade and get to that 18 or 19 million per needed to sign a quality player. Hence why we see the Rockets so adamant about non-guaranteeing D-Mo's 2nd year plus. They obv. want to add another quality player next Summer that they think could make the Harden/Capela/Gorden & co. team a legit contender.
     
  10. BigggReddd

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    GETTT OOVVVEEERRR IIIITTTTT
     
  11. Vivi

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    I don't understand why there must be a clash between D.Mo sucks vs D.Mo is great...the truth is in the middle, when he was healty he played very well, that's a fact, who says that he sucks no matter what and that he's always been **** is straight up wrong and just omitting facts. On the other hand, who says that we should pay him cause he's going to be good like he was two years ago is as wrong, as today at least, because when he was back last year he was not even to close to the D.Mo we saw before the injury, and we don't know if he'll ever be that good again...

    "he should be our starting 4 now -> no, he sucks" ... "he was always a mediocre bench palyer -> he's better than Nurkic/Jokic"...this is what i don't get...
     
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  12. Brown Lost It

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    I don't know how I feel about adding a disgruntled player onto this team. The only relevant player in a contract year on the team is NeNe and he's a vet who's already been paid.

    Pretty much D-Mo has to understand he is getting a 2 year deal with some money guaranteed in year 2 in case his back injury flares up. He is no longer in a contract season because if he just does his job then he will return to his form and his option will be picked up in year 2.

    If he wanted more money then I don't know why he didn't just pick up his option and go get it.
     
  13. Htownballer38

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    Nobody on here said any such thing about Dmo sucking no matter what. You're reaching for some attention on that false tad bit right there.
     
  14. Nick

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    Its infinitely easier to neutralize now.... especially if said post-up player is a mediocre passer that can't handle a double team + zone defense that will provide extra attention if the post-up player is worthy of it.
     
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  15. ooooaaaah!

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    you do realize that by posting you are part of the circle jerk.

    "Kobe tell me how my *** taste" -Shaquille O'Neal
     
  16. Vivi

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    Eh, not sure nobody wanted to say exactly that, i kinda remember it but if i'm wrong i think it's just by a bit tbh...
     
  17. Sanity2disChaos

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    I see you don't read well............Point is ,Capela is balling and Dmo isn't goint to be a rocket as it stands.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Sure. Good weapon but we won't have it.

    It is like whining because we missed out on Leonard and took Marcus Morris instead of him, one pick ahead of him.
     
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  19. Easy

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    Few people straight up said he sucked. But plenty of people dismiss him as a marginal rotation player and not worth the fuss.

    I think Vivi is right in saying that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Morey obviously valued DMo more than Terrence Jones even with the injury risk. Otherwise he would have just let DMo walk like he did Jones. Not to mention MDA repeatedly said he wanted DMo.
     
  20. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I would say this part is closer to the truth, though I personally consider him a solid rotational player when healthy with the potential to be more. That said, "when healthy" is a huge point of concern, considering his pretty miserable partial season following the season ending injury that caused a trade to be rescinded.

    T-Jones needed a new home after injuries destroyed all his confidence and without Howard, he fits with Harden at lot worse. D-Mo fits into our playing style and gives us an option in half court sets with his hook shot, but ultimately, he is not the player to push us over the edge IMO.
     

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