Charlie is surprisingly not a very detailed coach which would be a stark contrast to Herman. He needs a really strong staff to succeed and his coaching evaluations at UT were one failure after the other. Only 1 coach from his original staff remained in their original position. None of them were poached by other schools, all ended up being canned by Strong himself. To give you an example, I believe it was the West Virginia game where we got a key INT in the final minute to give us a shot at the win. Strong was jumping up and down in joy while our TE coach had to run down the sideline to Strong to signal him to call a timeout. That may seem small but clock management had been an issue is so games already. When you look at how many close games we lost, it was surreal watching that. With that said, I would really hate to recruit against Strong. The guy is amazing with parents and recruits.
HELL NO on Charlie Strong!!!! Put aside all the resources and 4/5 star recruits he had at Texas. With his job on the line he lost to freakin KANSAS, and then to TCU at home in the last game of the yr when there was some speculation that if they won this game he'd get another year. Whether that was true or not we'll never know because UT got their @$$ kicked!!!
According to Duarte the short list is: Holgorsen, Montgomery, Leavitt, Babers, Riley, Orlando, and Applewhite. Outside fliers: Leach, Mullen, Strong, and Miles. I'd be happy with Holgerson, Montgomery, Orlando, Strong, or Leach. Riley is an interesting choice.
I totally understand your point here. What baffles me though is that Strong's staffs at Louisville never had many issues like the one you describe here. It's like they got to UT and forgot the details. Maybe it was the big lights, maybe it was the pressure, you never know. I still feel like he is should be in UH's top 3 after Brian Kelly( if he leaves ND), and Les Miles if he still wants to coach. I can't help but see the similarities in Louisville a few years ago and UH now. Strong was a huge part of that and wasn't gun-ho on leaving if UT didn't come with the big money. I'm looking at the stability of the UH program for at least 5 years. UH can't build a fan base or get into a power5 with a coaching carousel.
A UH friend of mine posted that some boosters want Briles. It makes too much sense on the football field but won't happen. ESPN and OTL would get a massive boner
Apparently Clint Hurtt (currently Bears OLB coach) was a guy that Strong relied on heavily at UL to keep coaches and details in track. He actually backed out of the Tennessee job because they wouldn't allow him to bring Hurtt along. Also having Bridgewater was a huge deal. Not trying to pound on Strong because I think he can be good again in the right situation and staff. Just not sure UH would be it.
Anyone willing to provide some insight on Derek Warehime? Word is that he is coming along with Herman but know nothing about him.
Anonymous Coogs and those with a Media voice like Matt Thomas all gave Herman the benefit of the doubt. Repeatedly. So, now to read, "unsurprising" "shocking" (sarcasm laced) "it is what it is", etc I mean the lack of self-accountability is what's really shocking. Coogs with a voice all gave Herman a pass during the year despite 1) Confirmation that he spoke to suitors after last year 2) Inexplicably poor displays by the team coinciding with Herman rumors 3) His unwillingness to commit in perpetuity to this job, your school, and OUR city The fact is, you didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth. The only problem is, every time you turned your back, that horse was eyeing any stable with so much as a few bales of hay. You were scared to piss off the guy you thought was your shot at the promise land. NEWSFLASH: If he was the guy you thought he was - he wouldn't have been pissed off! He'd have owned wanting to be here now and for the forseeable future without any strings attached. You can't go from giving the guy the proverbial hall-pass to just a "it is what is is." If you are a prominent Coog media voice in the home market, you just can't do that! --------------------------------------------------- Matt Thomas @SportsMT 21h21 hours ago ... It is what it is.. --------------------------------------------------- Look, I've listened to and supported, albeit silently, Matt Thomas since he was on 950, and I had to deal with figuring out how best to ignore drunk and/or fringe-of-senility Ed Fowler and the newly-minted, continuous, O'Reilly Auto Parts commercials...through the time he unprofessionally used "J.R." Rider despite Isaiah's objections...and upon his successful return to Houston. But I'm done with that now. Matt has to earn me back. Rockets championship intro's from >20 years ago no longer offset taking the easy way out all year despite having Tom on every week. I need some kind of mea culpa Matt. And I'll be listening Monday morning for one. Major market radio host or not, sports radio host or not, I personally feel there has been a marginalization of journalistic integrity. The perpetuation of the "dream job" or "once in a lifetime" outlet will be, in particular, what I'm looking for. Because not once did Matt use the opportunity or access he had to pin Herman down on "what if a dream job comes calling" "What if UT wants you?" "What if Urban, for personal reasons again, chooses to step away and personally calls you back to TOSU?" And because you never did that, you don't get to say "duh" now which is the equivalent of these excuses. Have more self-respect than this Coogs. This is not ok. As I've stated before, I'm a Rice guy, but there's no way this is a good look for my city. Coogs, you don't just rep Cullen - you rep us. You rep Htown. It wasn't #CullenTakeover. If you want to let this $-chasing, manipulative, lying, intimidating, power wielding flip-flopper off your hook this easy, well ok...but don't expect me to go to bat for you again if you can't even go to bat for yourself. And yes, I get that it's a precarious situation. If you look like sore losers it just increases the challenge of luring the next promising coach - in particular if there is any type of competitive bidding war. But you also owe it to yourself and to this city to not be a public doormat. We had your back all year - here's to hoping you have ours. And freaking Kudos to you LSU. Sniff the filth, and as Yungstar once said, ALL ROACHES GETTIN SPRAYED.
With all due respect to Orlando, Strong & Leavitt, don't want a defensive guy taking over. Spoiler Mike Leach 29-33 at Washington State; 2 bowl appearances(1-1) 84-43 in 10 years at Texas Tech(2000-2009); 9 bowl appearances(5-4) Coaching branch extends far & wide Dan Mullen 60-42 in 8 years at Mississippi State(2009-2016); 6 bowl appearances(4-2) Former GA/QB/OC under Urban Meyer(at Notre Dame, Bowling Green, Utah & Florida) Dana Holgorsen 45-30 in six years at West Virginia(2011-2016); 4 bowl appearances(2-2) Former OC at Houston(2008-2009); Has worked under Leach, Sumlin & Gundy Philip Montgomery 15-10 in 2 years at Tulsa(2015-16); 1 bowl appearance(0-1) Has worked with Art Briles going back to his Stephenville days(previously OC/QB/RB at Houston 2003-2007) Lincoln Riley(33 years old) Current OC at Oklahoma OC at ECU from 2010-2014 Worked under Mike Leach at Texas Tech(2003-2009; WRs 2007-2009) Todd Orlando Les Miles 114-34 at LSU from 2005-2016; fired in September; played for 2 national championships(2007 & 2011; 1-1); 11 bowl appearances(7-4); anemic offenses & poor QB play; unable or unwilling to adapt; says he's going to change at his next stop. 28-21 at Oklahoma State from 2001-2004; 3 bowl appearances(1-2) Dino Babers 4-8 in his first year at Syracuse 18-9 at Bowling Green from 2014-15; 1 bowl appearance(1-0) A&M OC in the early 2000s(01-02); worked WRs under Art Briles at Baylor(2008-2011) 19-7 at Eastern Illinois from 2012-2013(QB was Jimmy Garoppolo; current(/former?) Texas OC Sterlin Gilbert was OC) Jim Leavitt Current DC at Colorado; 75-44 at USF from 2000-2009; 5 bowl appearances(3-2) Charlie Strong 16-21 at Texas; 0 winning seasons; 1 bowl appearance(0-1); 37-15 at Louisville from 2010-2013; 4 bowl appearances(3-1) Major Applewhite
Like the other P5 coaches mentioned in Duarte's list, I have hard time believing they would leave to come to a G5 school. (Plus, based off our history, our coaches are trying to get P5 jobs). It's not impossible but unlikely as the last coach I remember doing that was Tommy Tuberville (Texas Tech to Cincinnati).
Just shut up and go dude. Spewing that family nonsense even on his way out the door. Give me a coach that wins and uses us as a springboard without lacing everything with honesty and integrity horse ****.
I get it, every coach has to have a great detail guy on the staff to keep him aware of in game situations. Great ones are difficult to find as well. You are right having Bridgewater was a huge deal. Having Kyle Allen in waiting @ UH could be a huge deal as well. I guess my point is the pantry is not empty at UH. UH just needs a coach that will stay and continue to build the program until they become apart of a power 5 conference. I can't see the other available coaches that are in power5 conferences choosing come and then choosing to stay @ UH except Charlie Strong. When you post all the coaching creds on the wall all the coaches are winners in some aspect, but who will stay and build with you? It's a catch 22 problem to have but the President, AD, and Tillman can't focus on getting UH into a Power 5 if they have to keep focusing on keeping the Coach. Someone that will stay is what UH needs the most right now.
