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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Chopped, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. DonnyMost

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    The funny thing is I have no doubt we could have retained Briles and Sumlin, given enough money to do so.

    But it appears that Herman coveted UT from the get-go.

    Can't blame him. We all have dream jobs.
     
  2. sammy

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    No comment across the board.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    Ed Oliver apparently not taking the news well. As expected.

    The players suffer here. College athletics is such a s*** show.
     
  4. ItsMyFault

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    We could use another DT. Austin is only a few hours away.
     
  5. ShutURBiG!

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    He's clearly inexperienced in the PR aspect.

    I'm no psychology wiz, but you could tell his eye movements and facial expressions were different when he replied to that questions compared to the ones right before.

    He should have said something along the lines of "My job is to be focused on this team and what is at hand for us for the season. Anything regarding other job openings are handled by my agent and should be directed to him. I have personally not met with any other team."

    In my opinion, he should have stayed to iron out wrinkles when faced with adversity (e.g UConn, Navy, SMU, Memphis) so that he can handle them better on a bigger stage in the spotlight. But he left at a time when his stock is high, fresh off a win against #5 Louisville. Maybe more time here against tough opponents in the American would've dulled down his shine and he wouldn't have an opportunity again. Can't blame him for that.

    I trust Fertitta and the rest of the administration to make a great coaching hire.
     
  6. gucci888

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    Who do you guys like as the next guy up?
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    I will get Clutch to give me your IP, run is through Trolltrace, come to your house and make you eat my s***, then s*** out my s***, and then eat your s*** that's made up of my s*** that I made you eat.
     
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  8. ItsMyFault

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    I assume you are OK with Ed going to UT then after you perform this act. Seems like a fair trade off.
     
  9. TheMystery008

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    I feel bad for Kyle Allen and Ed Oliver. Even more for Kyle Allen for transferring here.
     
  10. Newlin

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    Houston has proven itself to be possibly the number one non-P5 school for coaches wanting to move up the ladder to a top coaching gig. This of course is a double edged sword for UH and their fans because while they can attract top coaching talent, if the coach has any success, then he leaves within a couple of years.

    I can see where the coaching turnover at UH could become a problem, because top recruits may be afraid to come to UH for fear of the coach that recruited them leaving shortly after they hit campus.

    It's really hard to find a great coach that will be content to stay at a non-P5 school. I'm hoping that whoever the next coach is, he can bring the excitement to the program the way Herman did. Herman seemed like a really a dynamic leader off the field as well as on the field, and I hope UH can can find another guy like that, even if he's another short term coach.
     
  11. gucci888

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    Just read that he is on pace to graduate so he could follow or go elsewhere.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    Hell, if I were him I'd graduate and go play at OU and stomp a mudhole in UT just to spite him.
     
  13. RasaqBoi

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    So Kyle Allen can graduate and immediately play anywhere next year?
     
  14. gucci888

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    Kyler Murray and Kyle Allen reunite in Norman?
     
  15. Fulgore

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    Man this sucks. He lied to the players but im sure they knew what was up. Maybe we can find someone that wants to be here and not get used like Briles, Sumlin, and Herman.
     
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    http://insider.espn.com/college-foo...-longhorns-remains-best-group-5-coaching-jobs

    Tom Herman is off to Texas, and his departure from Houston frees up what might be the best Group of 5 coaching job.

    Three of Houston's past four coaches have used their success with the Cougars to jump to bigger jobs at Baylor (Art Briles), Texas A&M (Kevin Sumlin) and now Texas (Herman). Houston has invested in the program and will embark on several important projects in the coming months, including a $20 million indoor practice field. Herman inherited talent and also brought in much more.

    Bottom line: Houston is a great job. Who should UH hire? The Search Firm is on the case.

    Joining me are ESPN.com national reporters Mark Schlabach and Chris Low, Texas-based Big 12 reporter Max Olson and Jeremy Crabtree, who leads ESPN Recruiting Nation's coverage and has extensive knowledge of the Texas recruiting landscape.

    The firm will break down the job, what Houston should want in its next coach and the top candidates before offering a recommendation.

    The Houston job

    Adam Rittenberg: I think Houston, even though it isn't going to the Big 12, has become a really desirable job with its facilities investments, its willingness to pay coaches, its location and the way it has recruited. This has to be looked at as if not the best, then maybe the second-best Group of 5 job behind Boise State. I think some Power 5 coaches would leave for Houston if they're in bad situations and would look at it as a springboard to something else. That's how well the job is regarded.

    Chris Low: It's one of the top three Group of 5 jobs because of location, the recruiting pool and the money the Cougars have spent the past few years on upgrades and facilities. Also, they have shown with Herman that they'll pay good money for the right head coach. It's better than 10-15 percent of the Power 5 jobs.

    Mark Schlabach: It's the best springboard job out there. Art Briles turned it into the Baylor job, Kevin Sumlin turned into the A&M gig, and now Tom Herman is off to Texas. Given what Houston is spending on facilities and the fact that it's located in one of the best recruiting hotbeds out there, it's one of the top two Group of 5 jobs. The obvious drawback is not being in a Power 5 conference.

    Jeremy Crabtree: Houston is one of the top three or four cities in the country for recruits. But keeping those guys and winning the battles against the mid-level Big 12 schools and mid-level SEC schools is the one thing Tom Herman has done that whoever gets this job might have a hard time replicating. Even so, it's a pretty attractive gig.

    Low: It's a very fertile recruiting area, in which Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor and LSU can't get all the players.

    The criteria for Houston's next coach

    Crabtree:
    Houston has to continue to find somebody who has those Texas ties. Finding that next top guy who has Texas connections is maybe easier said than done, but you can continue the continuity Sumlin was able to have, and Herman was able to fix what Tony Levine screwed up before he arrived. It's important.

    Rittenberg: The Cougars certainly could get the hot coordinator, which has worked, but they also could attempt to get some current head coaches, even some guys in Power 5 leagues. The two Power 5 guys who I think would at least look are West Virginia's Dana Holgorsen and Cal's Sonny Dykes. I don't know what Houston would rather have because the three guys who have really gotten it going there weren't college head coaches prior to taking the job.

    Schlabach: They might want to bring a little more stability to the position, such that it isn't just a launching pad. I would. I would put a little more weight on an older guy who has done it and maybe will look to put down some roots. You can't keep turning over staff every two or three years.

    Rittenberg: Do you hire a Sonny Dykes, thinking he might stay for five years, or Lincoln Riley, who's going to be looking to bounce after a year or two?

    The candidates

    West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen: Dana should be seriously considered. The extension talks with the folks at West Virginia have not been successful. He's due to make only $2.9 million next year, and with the success this season, doors are going to open for him. He's a guy who loves the city of Houston and has coached at the University of Houston. I know some people might say it's crazy to leave a Big 12 job for Houston, but that's one job he would be attracted to. -- Olson

    Oklahoma offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley: He makes a lot of sense. He's a great offensive mind, and he runs a really good, wide-open, entertaining offense. He did it at East Carolina, and he has done it at Oklahoma. He's probably a guy who, if the Cougars don't get him now, they're not going to have a chance to get him in two or three years. -- Low

    Riley: Tom Herman won the Broyles Award (for the nation's top assistant coach) the year he took the Houston job. Those are the coaches you should be looking at, and Lincoln Riley won the Broyles last year. -- Olson

    Cal coach Sonny Dykes: He has obviously coached in Texas. His dad, Spike Dykes, coached in Texas. He knows high school coaches, develops quarterbacks and runs an entertaining offense. -- Schlabach

    Dykes: It's the same offense that every high school in the state of Texas is running right now. -- Crabtree

    Alabama offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin: The enormity of being the head coach at Houston is not what it is at USC or Tennessee. Plus, it's a big city. Lane needs to go somewhere he can disappear a little bit. He won't have to wear as many hats as he would at a Pac-12 or SEC school. He might need that to break back into the coaching fraternity. -- Low

    Kiffin: He's interesting because we're talking about coordinators versus head coaches, but he has been both. Obviously, he has been more successful as one than the other, but with the quarterback development and a name quarterbacks want to play for, he could be a really interesting option. He's a guy Houston would have to consider pretty strongly. -- Rittenberg

    The firm also discussed Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, Houston defensive coordinator Todd Orlando and Houston offensive coordinator Major Applewhite.

    The Search Firm's recommendation: West Virginia's Dana Holgorsen

    He gets to escape whatever you want to call his situation in Morgantown and go back to a city he loves and a program where he has won. Houston gets an exciting offensive mind with legit Power 5 credentials who can keep the team in contention every year. -- Olson

    He has recruited in the Lone Star State in his time at Texas Tech, Houston and Oklahoma State. Plus, he's a savvy recruiter who knows how to go against the grain, pick the appropriate recruiting battles and land some quality talent. -- Crabtree

    He knows the state well, he runs an exciting version of the Mike Leach offense, and I think he's looking for a place to land for a while. I don't think Houston needs another up-and-coming coach who is only going to use the job as a launching pad to something bigger and better in a Power 5 conference. -- Schlabach
     
  17. RasaqBoi

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    Major Applewhite or Todd Orlando will be promoted to Head Coach.
     
  18. bobrek

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    #HTowntakeoveranddone
     
  19. SWTsig

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    Dana makes a ton of sense.... whoever it is absolutely has to be plugged in to Texas recruiting.
     
  20. the shark

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    "Can't blame him"?

    UH gave Briles his first head coaching opportunity in college.
    Briles stayed for FIVE yrs.

    UH gave Sumlin his first head coaching opportunity.
    Sumlin stayed FOUR yrs.

    UH gave Herman his first head coaching opportunity.
    He sold not only recruits about UH and his vision, but the assistant coaches as well (along with the students).
    Kids like Ed Oliver bought into his vision, and he's leaving after TWO YRS.
    All of his assistants aren't heading with him to UT so he's screwing with men who have families who helped him achieve the success he's had at UH.

    Hell he was talking to schools after last yr. (after being at UH for ONE FREAKIN YR).
    Herman is a grown man and can do whatever he wants to do (and he has).
    He has shown (like Todd Graham--who left Tulsa & Rice after one yr) that he has NO CHARACTER, and funny that his mantra has been to mold these young men (who bought into his vision) into men of character.

    You also called Herman a "great coach"? He's done a remarkable job his first two years, but only time will tell if he's a "great coach". Hell he got hammered by SMU.
     
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