[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

With all the widespread griping about ridiculously overpaid contracts handed out like dinner napkins,

Really Rockets and Morey are doing here whats SUPPOSED to be DONE to have player contract at its REAL MARKET value. As ugly and resentful as this situation is, in actuality MORE teams should be doing this with bottom-half players and their agents to not overpay the Mozgof'ers. Its just really too bad D-Mo is being made the hardball example for 2 teams since he's a decent hard working person. It is a business in the end

 

I would say this holds water. Dude has what. 14-16 mil out there 7 garaunteed. If he plays well for those two years he cashes in. There is not a team out there that doesn't consider his back a ticking time bomb. Some team might come up with 3 year 27-30 with first 2 garaunteed but that's a stretch. DMO needs to say thanks BJ for trying. But I need to play and prove I'm healthy. If he thinks some team is going to toss him a Maloney contract then I would like some of that Lithuanian weed cause it's some good dope.

 

DMo doesn't do the same thing? As is the nature of being a role player. Some here don't seem to understand that your role players aren't going to bring it every night...hence the reason they are role players. They are inconsistent and go through ebbs and flows. Gordon, Ariza, Bev, Anderson, etc. None are immune to this.

Or has the legend grown so much that DMo was more than a 12 and 6 guy on average when at his best?

 

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the contract DMO wants isn't what anybody is willing to give him?

Wow. Crazy. What if?!

 

What?

 

They waited on the Rockets. Then the Rockets went out and signed Anderson. I know you don't get that. It's ok. But that was the problem. If the Rockets had spent that $18 million of cap space, it wouldn't have been a problem. But they went out and tied themselves to a player that plays the same position as DMo. That severely limits DMo's opportunities. Because, you see, DMo and any sane person knows that the Rockets aren't paying Anderson $80 million to be a backup. That's where the betrayal started. DMo knows MDA's penchant for playing small. And with Capela and Anderson as the starters and MDA wanting to play small much of the time, it severely limits DMo's opportunities since he is a 4 and wants to play 4 alongside a legit 5.

DMo is not a moron. Her and BJ knows if they sign a low one-year guaranteed offer that he's nothing but a trade chip to be flipped. And then he's got to prove himself by signing another cheap deal next season.

Restricted free agency is a dirty business. And Morey got plenty dirty in this case.

 

I'm sorry, "betrayal"?

Good Lord. The Rockets were not obliged to sign a player whose long-term health they doubted. Or overpay him until they knew he was sturdy enough.

We can argue about Ryan Anderson and his contract and such.....

But "betrayal"? This isn't marriage. The Rockets tried to trade him; did he think they wer going to cough up a big chunk of change?

 

Where in the hell did I ever compare TJones to DMo. I was replying to your comment on "TJones has been playing great" by that definition 75% of the NBA is playing "great"

 

What "betrayal" took place? What were the Rockets obligations to DMo? What makes DMo different than other RFA's?

*thinking*

Actually never mind. Isn't the answer just going to be something along the lines of "you just don't understand", or "you'll see", or "it's not worth discussing"? Probably so.

 

Doesn't look like Dmo will play at all in the NBA this season.

 

Yup. Evil Daryl Morey didn't bend over backwards to accommodate DMo when DMo didn't get what he wanted.

Evil, I tell you!

 

True. Dmo is mainly overhyped. Just another average role player who showed flashes to far in between. Oh and he fell down a lot.

 

I said TJ was playing great? No that isn't what I said and obviously the context of the reason I mentioned him went right over your head. Go back and try to read it again. TJ took what was out there instead of sitting around pouting and waiting for a better offer that may or may not have ever come. He bet on himself and his ability to play for a better contract next season which he is putting himself in position to do right now. The market determines your worth...not your ego. Latrell Sprewell and Bonzi Wells failed at this aproach long time ago and one ended up completely out of the NBA altogether. This is just how it works. Tristan Thompson did it. Harrison Barnes did it. DMo should have done it too. There is a precedent set for how to handle this. If you don't like the contract being offered to you...you don't hold out and not play at all and back yourself into a corner. Apparently he and BJ didn't get the memo.

 

DMo is a fool.

 

Nobody is obliged to do anything. But they did recruit him, let him know they wanted him, and that causes DMi to wait for them. They then went and signed Anderson. And after that they cooled on DMo and he became a trade pawn. Sorry you can't see and understand that. But it's what happened here. After they signed Anderson, then the games began in regards to DMo. All this after he was played by the Pistons last season.

By the way if you want to compare value, check out the contract we gave Gordon. Check out his injury history and how many games he missed due to injury over the last three seasons. Nite dig deeper and look at his efficiency. We gave Gordon $53 million. Duo the math and then tell me DMo isn't worth more than $7 million. Oh, he wasn't offered a contract you say? Better think again. Because that's not true. It's absurd to believe he hasn't been offered more.

 

Alright then. So we agree on that.

Now...my followup question is...if nobody is obliged to do anything, where is the betrayal? If DMo was offered more elsewhere, why isn't he taking that offer? Why are the Rockets the only team he'll accept a contract from? If he's not happy with other teams offers, what makes the Rockets the bad guys?

As for "value", that's up to DMo to determine. He's a restricted free agent. He can prove what his value is by bringing the Rockets an offer sheet to match. Why hasn't he?

 

what a fool. he would have gotten paid in D'antoni's system.

 

The betrayal was telling DMo how important he was going to be to MDA and then Morey goes out and signed Anderson for $80 million. There's only 96 minutes to play at the 4-5 spots. You got Capela and Nene eating up almost all the center minutes. Maybe there's 3-4 minutes left there. And you've got Anderson chewing up 32 of the 48 minutes at the 4, with MDA spending the vast majority of the remaining 16 minutes on small ball 4's. Where's DMo supposed to get 30 minutes from? MDA isn't going to bench Anderson after we gave Anderson $80 million. That's betrayal. You make him think he's a major part of the rotation when the real plan is to sign someone else and trade him.

I don't know why guys like you can't see this. The minute we signed Anderson DMo became a trade chip. That's betraying him, telling him you want him, then signing his replacement and deciding you want to use him in trade. And if you don't believe that's what happened here, we just withdrew our contract offer because we WANTED to be able to trade him by the deadline. Meanwhile guys like you are posting how stupid he is. He's not stupid. He can smell a dead fish before seeing it.

 

Just like Ryno increased his value playing for MDA to 30 million a year?

 

Motiejunas was a borderline rotational big on an elite team when he was at his best.

He has had one good season.

He hurt his back.

He came back and didn't look good for the Rockets.

The Rockets thought so highly of him that they dealt him for a middle of the round #1.

He failed his physical with Detroit.

He had the whole off season to sign a contract with another team and force the Rockets to match or let him go.

It is now almost December and Motiejunas has convinced no one to sign him to a deal more than the Rockets offer of 7 million.

The market believes Motiejunas is worth 7 million in 2016.

There are no grand conspiracies or plot twists.