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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. fattz

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    People have won the Texas lottery and received less than $7million. I think his life is going to change some when he signs. He has his reasons (unknown to most) but his lifestyle most likely changes soon. I would be pissed, too. (Trade and Anderson's contract compared to his offer, but that is on his agent & the market not the Rockets) it time to become a multimillionaire & sign.
     
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  2. Vivi

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    Yep i agree, but that's why in his situation he just cannot take everything he wants. So, sign the contract that the Rockets are offering and accept the fact that you can be traded (like 90% of the players), or just sign the qo and pick your next team in few months. I mean, it's good to wait and see if you can get a bigger/better contract, he has the right to do so, but when you see that this isn't an option, you have just to move on.
     
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  3. topfive

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    Not sure how much creedence to give it, but this article posted within the last hour claims the Rox have taken that most recent offer off the table:

    Story is here. Translated by Google, it says:

    ESPN reporter Marc Stein reports that the Houston Rockets have withdrawn their proposal Lithuanian Donatas MOTIEJŪNAS. November 23 th is the last day, when the team may sign a contract with the basketball players and retain the possibility to get rid of them before the end of the season the exchange window.

    D.Motiejūnas this summer has been fixed and the free agent declined the qualifying offer, which amounted to 4.4 million. US dollars. The last proposal submitted by the Rockets were a few year contract, worth about 7-8 million. US dollars annually.

    Houston club for some time reached a new agreement with the Lithuanian, but team leaders wanted to do until November 23 th.

    Pro Basketball Talk journalist Kurt Helin added that with any other team D.Motiejūnas have not yet agreed. Rockets still have the opportunity to recover the basketball player from Lithuania, offered better conditions.

    True, this season change D.Motiejūno opportunities are not.

    If the D-Mo decides to return to Europe, and then move back to the US, the Rockets once again take precedence over basketball player to offer a contract. It fixed the free agent status will not disappear.
     
  4. MrButtocks

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    If he signs for 3yr/$6M per then we'll likely match right away. There are several teams that had nothing to lose by offering that to him this year. They're not suddenly going to jump at the chance to offer it to him next year. Teams have cap space right now and aren't offering it to him.

    Why am I the optimistic one? You're the one who thinks DMo will get an offer he can't get now. I simply don't think his free agency will affect our plans next year because it didn't this year. And you talk about security when his position is inherently less secure now. He has NO guaranteed money at the moment. You can talk about fewer games and playing against scrubs in Europe, but people get hurt in practice before playing a single game.
     
  5. malakas

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    And if you are a 7 footer and can move some you can get at least the vet min in the NBA which is the equivalent of winning the lottery for normal people. More money that any person here can make in years. What is that comparison?
    NBA players have hit the lottery anyway just by being tall.
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    Not one NBA team has given Donatas an offer he likes.

    Morey has him by the balls until that changes.
     
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  7. malakas

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    oh? we will match right away? So we will be out of the running from adding a Hayward Griffin whoever because of DMO?

    I am the one who thinks the offer we made him sucks for him anyway so he doesn't have much to lose.
    And your issue is that you don't understand that the rules of RFA next summer to this summer are different.

    First of all straight up take one million away from our capspace just by the increase of DMO's caphold.
     
  8. Vivi

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    Well, this is all true, but on the other hand, are we sure that there're nba teams willing to burn 48 hours of the first days of free agency for him because they think he can be their starting 4/5? Eh, it's true that it really needs only one team, but i have a hard time believing this, as today at least.
     
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  9. Snow Villiers

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    Bobby Brown breathes a sigh of relief. :eek:
     
  10. MrButtocks

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    If needed, we can renounce his rights for cap space. We can refuse to match whatever offer he gets. Point is, we're in control and his cap hold doesn't affect our free agency plans very much. I doubt he gets the contract you think he deserves. You think he's lost nothing, but he's just lost a $7 million offer he can't get anywhere else.

    You just refuse to address the question. Why can't he get a contract now? What will change between now and 2017 that will make him get a better offer?
     
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    This idiot is trying so hard to redeem him self but he keeps ****ing up. Just shut up already and stop acting like a GM or know something we don't.
     
  12. Brown Lost It

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    D-Mo is being stubborn.

    Either sign the QO or give the Rockets some incentive to offer you more money. Take the $7 mil this season and whatever is guaranteed next season and become a FA after next season. It gives you time to slowly return this season, get into game shape and peak by the end of this season, stay in shape during the summer and get paid for putting up good numbers next year.
     
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    I don't get DMO. I thought he had a good attitude. Surely he understands this is just business. He needs to lose the mopey-face, sign, get back on the court and work on getting that big contract next time around.
     
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  14. Vivi

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    Well, if he'll be able to stay healty and play well until next summer, his chance to get a better contract will be obviously higher.
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    So, he truly does not want to be on the team, or if he is on the team, does not want Morey to be able to trade him. Fine, it is his career.

    He either signs or he doesn't, but to me, this clearly is DMo being a little bit personal about it. I don't blame Morey for playing hardball that is how RFA works, and I don't blame Dmo for holding out, it is his career - I think he should have signed the QO as it would have given him the right of first refusal in any trade, but it might have been millions less this year - so, will be interesting to see where this goes.

    Either way - time and the Rockets move on.

    DD
     
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    I blame Chandler Parsons... because of him, Morey will never treat his non-star players as more than assets again.

    (Yes, I am trolling folks here).
     
  17. J Sizzle

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    Lol at this whole saga. Just LOL.
     
  18. Vivi

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    If he doesn't want to play here or to be traded in a bad team, he should've signed the qo like you said, or find a team willing to do a s&t...those were the only things to do. Imo, i think he just wants more (guaranteed) money.
     
  19. heypartner

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    You keep saying the rumored CBA rule changing the RFA signing date helps DMo worth holding out an entire year. Maybe you're right ... BJ and DMo are certainly waiting on something. I just want it explained more. If you think it is worth it to wait, instead of explaining how it will help in 2017, it would help me understand more by having someone explain how the new rules would have helped DMo in Summer 2016 free agency, had the expected new rules been in place then.

    Using 2016 free agency as examples, do you think DMo would have signed by now under the proposed new rules, and why?

    As for can't rescind the QO, that doesn't help DMo at all, if Morey's plan is to offer it again, and never rescind it. Surely, that's not worth the risk of holding out an entire year. Note: Not being able to rescind the QO probably does not mean he can't renounce Bird rights and cut DMo, in the event we sign someone big ... like GSW did with Ezeli. I'm sure Morey will still be able to offer a QO and still renounce Birds rights and cut the player. The Rescind QO rule that they are eliminating allowed Bird rights to remain. The player just goes from RFA to UFA with Bird rights still intact.
     
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