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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. roslolian

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    7M is actually a low ball offer which shows the Rox are concerned about his back, they paid 20M to injury prone Anderson I'm sure they would've ponied up 11M for Dmo in normal circumstances.

    Yes players do hold out but they stop at training camp, they dont hold out for like 2 months into the season because that means they start losing money for every game they've missed. In normal circumstances a pissed off player would've just taken the QO and then left in FA the next year, what Dmo is doing is sitting out games until he has a fat paycheck for multiple years, I think he's afraid this might be his last contract which is why he doesnt want to settle. For a fully healthy player, his no 1 goal is to maximize his income for the year, once the team draws their line on the sand a normal player would just eat up the contract then leave the next year, not sit out games because that just results in less money.
     
  2. roslolian

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    What are you talking about? Salaries are prorated based on the number of games you play (except when injured). Every game he misses he loses a part of that 7M salary, if he signs at the deadline why will Rox or any team give him a full year's salary for half a year of work?
     
  3. basketballholic

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    What's 44% of $16 million?
     
  4. DaDakota

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    From the article:

    "Well, as we know now, the Pistons got cold feet and voided the trade."

    There is not much to see here - Dmo is healthy, needs to knock the rust off, wants more money, the Rockets are firm on their offer, it will get resolved, Dmo doesn't want to lose too much money and the Rockets don't want to lose a valuable asset for nothing - this is all because of the RFA portion - not much more than that.

    Again, he played last year - had an up and down return (as expected coming off of injury and gettting inconsistent minutes under the idiot JB), and will be a decent smart player once he does sign - which I am GUESSING is after the 23rd so he doesn't have to go through another trade by Captain Trade Machine the GM.

    DD
     
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    true it could be flawed but in the case of OKC where we didn't score a bucket in the last 6 minutes of the game for example I'll take my logic
     
  6. PhiSlamma15

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    LOL
     
  7. rocketjunkie

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    Actually it is a fact. He is losing money every day he sits out. If he sits out half a year, his contract would need to be $14mm for this year in order for him to not lose a dime of the $7mm for this year. He might make it up some if someone gave him more the next few years, but that's the assumption (and it'a yours, not mine).
     
  8. basketballholic

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    That is your assumption mate.
     
  9. JJWhat?

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    I'm pretty sure Rockets offered only 1st year guaranteed, that's why DMo can afford to hold out, since he's not losing that much and in case of a win for him, he gets more guaranteed years.
     
  10. emcitymisfit

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    signing him to a prorated 14 million contract would affect what the subsequent year numbers look like going forward.

    A 2 year 15 million dollar contract with a non guaranteed second year is much different than a 2 year 30 million dollar contract with a fully nonguaranteed second year. it increases the odds that the Rockets would trade or cut him in year 2.

    You can play with it by partially guaranteeing a bit in year 2 but that eats cap space, assuming he's cut and not traded.

    It's also easier to find partners to eat capspace in an environment such as this year where the cap is going to jump again (although the new CBA may mitigate this, I believe Larry Coon speculated on Duncd on that it would be capped at 10% increases going forward) and most teams will have space.

    It's not as simple as paying him more and prorating it, there's implications going forward for doing that. Generally I think teams have thrown players a bone and allowed agents to save face but I don't know if Morey will do that, seeing as how Bj has been such a moron in this.
     
  11. JJWhat?

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    Watkins said DMo's coming back from 2 back surgeries. Is he? I can only remember 1 back surgery.
     
  12. Htownballer38

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    Everyone here is assuming something.
     
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    You're logic is flawed. Every team goes on droughts like this.
     
  14. ricardo1979

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    D'Antoni keeps dropping hints that Dmo will be back just a matter of when
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    lol at him and a bigger LOL at his agent. Neither of them were in a position of power during the summer and they are further from whatever position they were back then at this time.

    Take the offer, DMo, play your ass off, go get a huge deal in the summer, and give this organization the finger.

    Or don't take the offer, torpedo any value you might have brought in a trade, and never come back to the NBA.
     
  16. Smacktle

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    The Dmo circle jerk continues and you guys are rubbing each other raw!
     
  17. JJWhat?

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    Rockets are not giving him 1 year deal any more, they're likely giving team option heavy contract over 2 or 3 years so no wonder he's not accepting. Should have taken that QO, said no one ever...
     
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    Yule C.
     
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    Maybe that's why every team needs a DMo. ;)
     
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    As I said his +/- is negative 4.3, his per 48 +/- is negative 13.94. So in the last 6 minutes we would be on average at least 4 points worse and if DMo had played so 25 minutes at that time we would need to score an extra 7 points just to break even. Not sure how you can defend a thought process where in 90% of the games he has played for us we were worse. I'm all for trying to develop him but doing so would continue to hurt us at first.
     

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