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[NYT] This Election Changed My Mind About America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Cohete Rojo

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    This election changed the Democrat party - for worse. They pretty much come off as smug corporatists hiding behind 'liberal' social-values while holding no empathy for the plight of Americans who exist outside of their bubble.

     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Yes, all those illegal Mexicans who did the utter most morally reprehensible deed of crossing the border illegally while in diapers who are now scared shitless of what their future entails are corporate elitists.

    Yes, my 85 year old hijabi grandmother is a corporate elitist. Now she and my mother are frightful that she won't be able to visit the States in the near future 'until we figure things out'. Such corporate shills I say.

    The mere fact that a large portion of Trump supporters economically DID BETTER in the past 8 years throws a giant monkey wrench into your silly notion.

    Yes, the bigot who pushes for 'MOAR COAL' just to appease the ignorant mass into a false hope of a new industrial revolution in an outdated source of energy isn't playing the populist game to fool ignorant cocks like you.

    Only a white male who assumes that racism towards minorities is ancient history can say the rest of the populace is in a bubble. The ****ing irony.
     
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  3. DudeWah

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    Wake up sheeple!
     
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    In Austin there already is infrastructure spending, and there are tax deductions for being a larger family with children than without. At least where I've worked there already was paid maternity leave for co-workers. If you're low income in Austin, there's even job training with programs like Capital IDEA to get you into trades, IT or healthcare since those fields of work will always be around and are needed. Besides covering tuition, they also cover child care services so parents can attend classes while their little ones receive supervision. If those students don't have prior financial aid debts, they can then apply for pell grants and receive free government money every semester while attending school to receive job training at a more affordable community college. I guess my point is the person you chose to quote doesn't seem to be aware there are already programs in place that do the very things she wants done already with the help of government.

    Having never worked in a fast food place, is the person you quoted asking for paid maternity leave for women that work at say Sonic, or McDonalds? I honestly don't know if they do but I'd be inclined to think no. Not saying people working near minimum wage jobs couldn't use benefits like paid maternity leave, but isn't that against the GOP platform of the government forcing services small businesses may not be able to handle? Is the person you quoted asking for regulation where all female employees by default are granted maternity leave for even small businesses or at high turnover jobs like at Walmart? Wouldn't this just be another form of say food stamps and welfare where you have low income people that are dependent on government intervention to survive, which is against the GOP platform of smaller government? I'd be more inclined to believe sincerity from Trump and the GOP on issues like this if historically they weren't so against the very things the person quoted is asking for. Or the fact that the things she's asking for are already in place.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah....Austin REALLY needs more of it though, their road and highway system is so under developed.
     
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    Yea although I haven't been a fan of the new toll roads they've built to try and help with traffic. Driving around Austin sucks.
     
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    I mean, it's better than nothing, which is what they had when I lived there, but yeah toll roads can't be the solution to everything.

    Austin just wasn't built to be a large city and now they are having to play catch up since the population is a lot more than they ever intended.
     
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    Some of these trump voters want good paying jobs without graduating college while rejecting welfare.

    I guess we can try things like German trade schools but that would be European and Midwesterners don't like European folk in their restrooms.
     
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    What's ironic is that the GOP was against Obama when he wanted to spend on infrastructure but now ok with a Republican president. Basically it was all about politics and nothing else.
     
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    Who will they blame when Trump isn't going to give them $40/hr handouts?

    Republicans were anti-Union and still are. These people voting for Trump got duped.
     
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    Shrub shifted the foreign landscape by embracing neoCons and making republicans more interventionist.

    I would put past the intellectual bankruptcy of republicans to shift towards Trumps pro-labor, pro-worker, yet anti-poor positions. In fact, they need that vote right now to retain power.
     
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    Because you were a real big supporter of the Democratic Party before this election?
     
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    Just LOL - did some idiot in this thread just try to hold up Austin as a model for infrastructure spending??!

    BWAAAAHAHAHA the liberals are truly delusional. And what's funny...you thought you'd easily win this election due to your echo chambers and your lapping up of the liberal media.
     
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    By outside of the bubble. . . he means White People. . . Poor White People . .. and only the White People
    If you not caring 1st, 2nd, foremost and just about only about the comfort and wellbeing of white people
    then you are some liberal corporate elitist

    Rocket River
    " . . . . but I know 'The Whites'!" - Dave Chappelle
     
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    Honestly, without being snide, I say this election taught me:
    1. p***y grabbing is not a deal breaker for white women as a group. I'm serious.
    2. Nice guys finish last. Don't hide your light under a bushel basket (Matthew 5:15).
    3. I am out of touch with that part of America who voted for Trump.
    4. The struggle for civilization never ends. We are always one step away from brutality and two steps from extinction.
     
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    A lot uneducated white people want their mining jobs or manufacturing jobs back, good luck to them with the Donald in charge, we will see how they vote in four years.
     
  17. Cohete Rojo

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    What does any of that have to do with the Democratic party?
     
  18. B-Bob

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    This year taught me that I had a completely unchallenged stupid assumption about our society. I thought we operated like a ratchet. One notch of progress, then a delay and a struggle, and *click*, another notch of permanent progress. What complete horseshit.

    History is an ebb and flow, and if we collectively move back to a world of mythology and superstition and forsake reason, then it can happen. We have the ability to go back to anything. Child labor. Women without the vote. Slavery for chrissakes. Witch trials. Anything.

    Ira Glass had a pretty amazing piece on how this election changed his mind about America. (Highly recommend this one; the conversation with his uncle is heart-breaking... and very familiar.)
    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/599/seriously
     
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  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It makes sense. The Republican party was becoming irrelevant and people were saying they were in need of finding a way to re-align to stay relevant.

    Well, they just reinvented themselves as the workers party - the party of anti-trade, anti-big business, racists, misogynists, and yet..somehow...the party to cut taxes and help the rih and powerful at the same time?

    Talk about a chimera.
     
  20. RocketsLegend

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    NYT is owned by one of the biggest anti-Trump out there so do you really expect them to have fair coverage of Trump?
     

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