Stubborness? I said it was semantics and it clearly is and you are so desperate for this win. I've given up discussing this issue, it is irrelevant. CNN and others consider it to be a cabinet position, you don't. What is the point to continue argue this point? Ah yes I know, to say you've won. Yes, yes you did. You asked about who I was talking about and I told you. Are you saying you didn't ask now? You call me stubborn lol. Yes, your point is arguing a semantic which just wasted your time because others will still consider him a member of the cabinet. Can you? You said 2/3rds of the TOTAL protesters in Portland didn't vote. The report said 2/3rds of those ARRESTED. 112 total people didn't protest, much more than that did. Did you ask them why they are protesting? I've seen many interviewed and I've yet to find one say "Because we lost!" and once again, you are lumping in protest in Portland with protests happening around cities around the nation. Are they all the same?
I don't know where you've been but Conservatives did hold demonstrations against Obama...many people didn't say anything about them. Myself included. Hell, the KKK is having some rally thing becuase they are so excited and I've said nothing about it. Why? Because people have a right to do it. Also, Obama did not mean to shut up and do nothing. You think these protest hinder their cause...they don't think that. Again, no one says anything about the peaceful protesting this ALWAYS happens. BLM had plenty of peaceful protests but you hear little about them from the right. I know many here are just trying to frame ALL protesters as rioters, when again in New York the Mayor welcomed these protests... And I expect you to excuse Trump for anything like what he's doing with Bannon for the next 4 years no matter what. So we can call it even. Happy?
Does it really matter that a portion of these protesters didn't vote? It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election, since Oregon was already a blue state. Perhaps that fact is part of what they're protesting about.
What's to address? He chose a person who played a key role in his winning, and balanced it out by placing him outside of the cabinet, with more of an insider who knows and works with people in Washington as Chief of Staff. Please do direct us to all the ire you posted about Obama when he chose Cabinet members not likely to be the ones the Republicans wanted. We are waiting. Until you do that...you've got absolutely nothing to complain about. Nothing. Also, please direct us to posts where you criticized Obama for saying, when he was questioned on similar matters "win an election". How exactly was that assuaging concerns from the other side? Please do elaborate. Or withdraw from the conversation. Your choice.
YES! If you didn't vote, you took none of the proper steps, in a democracy, to register your preferences. They are protesting the results of a democratic process they didn't even bother to participate in. That Oregon was a blue state just makes their protest all the more ridiculous. They won Oregon! By all means, immediately head to the streets and protest their...victory?? Ya, that makes perfect sense.
Nope...I'm not the one railing about how good Trump is, either. See, unlike you, I'm actually objective, as difficult a concept as that is for you to grasp. Fwiw, I do indeed have concerns about a Trump Presidency. I had concerns about a Hillary Presidency. No matter who was elected, I would have applauded them for things they did well, and criticized them for things I wasn't a fan of. So that brush don't fit. And despite my relatively limited time posting on this particular site, you will find a variety of liberals here that will tell you that. You are awfully good at creating strawmen, though, but sorry, homey don't play dat. Still waiting for you to provide the candidate he should have picked, that would have 'assuaged' all the fears on the left, AND that would have placated all of his supporters, and for that long list of Cabinet members Obama picked that were all the Republican's preferred people. Until then, http://www.hark.com/clips/fqvksvkkcx-you-got-nothing
Oh please, you know my life's story. You know when people have nothing else when they start insulting you. Do you want a cookie? A pat on the back? I've had conservatives here say I'm alright. I don't want to brag about it though. You realize I had plenty to say about Clinton? Where do you see me raving about Clinton? So guess what, that brush don't fit. You were the one accusing me of not being objective, not that I care Says the guy that started this strawman because the whole "I'm going to blame Trump's leadership for 4 years just like what people did for Obama." went right over your head. How about the one that's not a racist? Seems like it would have been a good idea right? Does he have to pick a racist to placate his supporters? Meanwhile many MANY are wanting this to be called off. http://www.towleroad.com/2016/11/rescind-steve-bannon-appointment/ But man, what do I know.
What's to address? Maybe that he's a deplorable? Did Obama pick a racist like Steve Bannon? You tell me, looks like he picked plenty of conservatives though...but you Mr.Objective ignored that post... Obama said something about Steve Bannon? Looks like he's not said much about it other than that he's going to ensure that there will be a smooth transition. Doesn't stop everyone else from realizing how terrible a pick this is and plays RIGHT into the fears that people have had about Trump thanks to HIS rhetoric. Mr.Objective here though I guess sees nothing wrong with how his rhetoric has scared people. Do you? Do you think Trump's rhetoric was acceptable and should just be excused? I guess this is the real test to see if you are as objective as you say you are.
That's ironic as hell coming from you. No, I don't. But I also think (and have stated so) that it was just that...rhetoric. Plenty of liberals have said terrible things...you recall comments about Republicans just wanting to kill babies? No, you probably don't.... The point being that people should recognize it for what it was...rhetoric. And if they ARE going to complain about it, they should step up and do so when their side engages in it, as well. Basket of deplorables, for example?
When have I insulted you? You just doubted my ability to comprehend a simple concept, of course I'll insult you back. I just mirror the vitriol tossed at me boss. Why does it matter? Do you remember what I said about the topic? No? Then why do you continue to say "Well what about when Obama said...or did..." do you have something from me defending Obama on X,Y,Z or Clinton? If so then please provide. If not then it seems like you've created an image of me in your mind to argue against.
No you're not; you're parroting Republican & Trump talking points, demonstrating an inability to form your own opinion. I would not have pegged you as someone who had to be spoon-fed their news and information. Oh, well.
Ah, that's one theory. So you're not even going to attempt to address the content of what I said? Gotcha. I'll take that as a concession.
