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The left's victim hood mentality.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. JayGoogle

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    Lol. Wow.

    It really didn't matter if Bannon was in his campaign since then because of his rhetoric lol.

    So I'm going with 3.

    3. Trump's ugly rhetoric is the first reason. They do not like what he represents. Clearly.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    It's Trump's fault at this point. Your image is in your control and he's doing a poor job of creating a terrible image. It is up to him to convey that he's not those things or that he's even against those things.
     
  3. TheresTheDagger

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    Wow indeed. Think through your posts a little closer next time and show humility when you are caught making mistakes.


    But they've had plenty of opportunity to rampage and protest before. They only chose to start these protests once they lost.

    Its not #3. That would require adult level thinking. Its that they need their blankie and to be tucked into bed.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    No mistake made here, you just are desperate to be right on something. "Omg you said scientist and not biologist! WRONG!" and tried to deflect as long as you can from addressing Steve Bannon in such a vital role.

    Definitely 3, most of the people protesting are adults. It looks like you are doing the same thing that Trump supporters whined about all year, labeling people and down talking them from your high horse.
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I think what you don't understand is that no one cares if some people have that image in their minds....you know, just like no one cares if those on the fringe right had an extremely negative image of what Obama stood for when he was elected. It means literally nothing and it's absolutely not an excuse to block traffic or for destructive protests.

    This is about people acting like adults and learning to cope with things happening that they don't approve of in an adult manner. Probably the most extreme examples of "privilege" is those thinking they have a right to block traffic or engage in destructive protests simply because things didn't turn out they way they wanted or because they don't approve of who is appointed to a cabinet.
     
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    lol these guys. They whine even when they get a bone. The obsession of the alt-right in this country is just weirdly creepy.
     
  7. TheresTheDagger

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    I'm not desperate to be right on this. I AM right. Sorry your ego won't acknowledge it, but that's not on me.

    BTW.....I didn't know this thread topic was about Steve Bannon. Silly me. I could have sworn the topic was "The left's victim hood mentality".


    Oh puhleeze. 2/3rds of these "adults" you are talking about didn't even bother to vote in Portland.

    http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-than-half-of-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-didnt-vote/351964445

    Let me ask you something....are you out there protesting? If you really believe in what they are doing, why aren't you joining in? I'm guessing maybe because you're adult enough to know it won't do any good and have accepted the results no matter how much you loathe it?

    You know...the mature thing.
     
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  8. JayGoogle

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    Ahh, didn't know no one cared then. Do you have a research poll to back this opinion?

    Actually I'm right on this issue and you are wrong. You just cared enough to spend a page arguing about it.

    You prompted this.

    Then instead of actually talking about Bannon, which you've yet to do even though you were so curious about it...you argued about technicality for a few pages about whether his position was a cabinet position or a cabinet-level position...


    Eh, that says more than half of the ones arrested, does that equal 2/3rds? You are about accuracy right?

    I believe that people have the right to protest and I also realize that protests are not meant to be off in the quietest of corners and held at a whisper. I don't have to agree or disagree with what they are protesting for, I just have to understand that they have the right to protest. If one protester does something wrong that doesn't make them all wrong though.

    You seem to lump them all up, if a protest in Portland gets rowdy people will connect to a peaceful protest in NYC that the Mayor himself approves of...
     
  9. krosfyah

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    You don't have to be the boss to demonstrate leadership qualities. Anybody can lead by example. What kind of example has Trump demonstrated?
     
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    I dunno. He hasn't been our leader yet.

    As a campaigner, he did what was needed to win. And you can't lead till you win first.
     
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    No, you aren't. Cabinet level is not Cabinet. Here's your original statement.

    Now lets look how wikileaks defines the positions that are not at the Secretary level.


    Your stubbornness on this is amusing though.



    No. I responded to the above assertion. I never once mentioned Bannon.

    Actually, I don't really care about Steve Bannon. That's your thing. MY thing was to get you to admit Steve Bannon isn't in the President's Cabinet as you originally and have continually implied. He is not.

    79/112 = 70%. Can you understand math?

    I see. You simply won't join them. Good to know.

    Protesting is allowed but lets be clear...this protest is occurring because things didn't go their way and these "protestors" DIDN'T EVEN VOTE. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad and they weren't destroying property and hurting people.
     
  12. BigDog63

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    I don't see Sander's book that way. Haven't seen it or read it, but it seems more a swipe at other Democrat's (ie, those who didn't support his revolution), and probably a way to get the other's on board.

    Not that I don't see a double standard...just not sure that's an example of it.
     
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    So, him saying he wanted to be everyone's President, even those who didn't vote for him (which was the only statement he made before all the protests)...that was exhibiting poor leadership how, exactly?

    And do you recall the following:
    "You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election," Obama said. "Push to change it."

    How does that compare with what Trump said....and did you complain about Obama not assuaging the concerns of conservatives then? I'll answer for you: No, you didn't.

    Did Obama load up his cabinet with conservatives? No, he did not. Did you complain about him not assuaging the fears of conservatives then? No, you did not.

    Hypocrisy and Double Standard much?

    I'm curious...had Hillary won, and conservatives protested, what would your stance about the protestors would have been then? No, I'm not actually, we all know what it would be, and it would be completely different than your stance now. Until that changes...your argument has no weight, no weight at all.

    But, let's take your comment at face value. Who could he have picked that would have 'assuaged the fears of these protestors' that would have also been someone the base that voted him in would have approved of?
     
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    Steve Bannon was instrumental in orchestrating Trump's win, and has a fairly distinguished career completely outside of Breitbart which is what is driving everyone's fears. Trump did demonstrate good leadership by balancing this by making Preibus Chief of Staff, and not Bannon.

    To borrow Obama's quote...if you don't like this...maybe win the election.

    As for you constantly complaining and blaming everyone on Trump for the next four year's....that announcement was hardly needed. No one expected anything else, and we are all sure you will not disappoint.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    It's impossible to have a double standard - when literally everythign about Trump, from using his kids as advisors, to his embrace of white supremacism in the white house, to his murky financial conflicts, to the fact that he is indebted to foreign espionage agents for assisting his campaign - is literally unprecedented in American histor

    There is no parallel here.

    But anyway, yes, Obama had a number of Republican appointees in key positions. Robert Gates and James Comey come to mind.

    In fact, Obama looks like [b]had more cross-party appointments to key positions than any president in American history[/b] - so looks like he did a fair amount of assuaging.

    Did you compliment him then? No you did not.

    Ignorant of relevant facts much?
     
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    This is such abject bullshit; he repeatedly told supporters during the campaign to stop booing and vote. On the morning after the election, he said, "We are now all rooting for his success in uniting and leading the county. The peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy, and in the next few months, we are going to show that to the world.”

    As usual, he was effortlessly graceful while leading by example, two qualities of his we are going to greatly miss these next four years. Man, are we going to miss them...
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Clearly that amazing leadership led to results......
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    Well, which is it, bobby - did he not lead, or not lead amazingly?... You can't retroactively move the goal posts...

    Tens of thousands of people have been peacefully protesting across the nation. They are following his lead.
     
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    Dude, maybe you are right, but you're going Swoly-D here to win a vocabulary argument.
     
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    I'm pointing out a failure of leadership. Those who are protesting are doing it on his behalf, they are his constituents and he's not really saying anything about it. Don't you think that he should be doing more to calm things down? He may have mentioned something in passing about rooting for Trump's success as president since he won the election fairly, but that's not speaking out against the destructive protests of the election result.

    If Trump's people were doing the same, people would expect him to speak out against them in the interest of peace. In fact, I'd be disappointed in him if that happened and he didn't speak out against it.
     

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