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LeBon James brings up race when it comes to the word "Posse"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. edwardc

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    This is just silly i don't think lebron took it the way it may have been meant if phil had said is boys that would have been taken a totally different way hell posse meant your boys back in the day.
     
  2. durvasa

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    True. I assumed the word was used in reference to LeBron's management team, but I didn't read the full story of what happened.
     
  3. Duncan McDonuts

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    I don't deny that racism exists. But when you cry racism when it's not, you lose credibility to cry racism.
     
  4. edwardc

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    You don't think they maybe professionals hmmm by not knowing them personally i can see how you can come to that but what if they are.His mom we know is not but who knows about his friends maybe just maybe they went to college.Just saying
     
  5. Major

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    I don't think PJ is racist, but this may be an example of the idea of implicit bias. You hear about black athletes and all the people that hang around them as their posses sometimes (Iverson comes to mind immediately). But when is the last time you heard of a white athlete's friends/family/etc called a posse? Whether it's a race thing or a socioeconomic thing or something else, there is often a negative connotation when the word is used in conjunction with athletes (as opposed to a movie or wherever else).
     
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  6. DudeWah

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    In this instance that seems completely irrelevant don't you think?

    Regardless of what they do, in the context of LeBron's friends relation to the team, they're not "professionals" by any means.

    Since LeBron was forcing special treatment to accommodate his friends, and his friends didn't realize the problem with that, I think Jackson's choice of wording is well suited.
     
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    When I called somebody's crew a posse earlier today. I had no idea this could even be considered a race issue before today. This shepherd who cried wolf affect will hurt others when real acts of racism happen.
     
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  10. mrm32

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    Phil Jackson used the word 'posse' because he's old as dirt. The more modern term is 'entourage'. Lebron clearly overreacting and I'm a lebron fan.
     
  11. Major

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    Was it an athlete? If not, then I'm not sure what the relevance is to my post or why you'd highlight the words "white athlete". Again, can you point to white athletes who have their people called a posse? And if not, can you identify why the differential? Do white athletes not have family and friends that hang out with them in the same way? Is there some other unique factor? Because guys like Lebron or Cam Newton or Allen Iverson or Ricky Williams often have their people called a posse.

    Implicit bias is all about unintentional and generally unrealized notions of racial bias. It's not the same as racism and certainly there is no intent. It's why black people get interviewed less if they have "black" names. Or why police stop them at higher rates, or why juries convict them at higher rates or whatever else. None of it is intentional and its not that cops or juries or employers are all racist or even realize they have a bias or are doing anything different with people of different races (or any other group where is implicit bias takes place - it can be gender or sexual orientation or wealth or profession or any other group we categorize people by).
     
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    I mean, if they aren't incredibly stupid, then it won't be a problem. Let Lebron go full potato if he wants.
     
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    https://bustedcoverage.com/2015/01/...crowley-busting-out-some-serious-dance-moves/
     
  14. FTW Rockets FTW

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    LOL, much ado over nothing. People play the race card for every small thing these days.
     
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    This is a very valid point that I wish certain minorities and "liberals" would take into consideration.

    Crying out racism when it's not involved is bullshit and creates skepticism as well as general negativity when legitimate occurrences take place.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    It's the subtle racism of how white people use particular terms to refer to minorities that they wouldn't use to refer to similarly situated white people. Much like black people are called thugs as a substitute for being called nig***. Just another drop in the bucket.
     
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    Phil really grabbed Lebron by the posse.
     
  19. DudeWah

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    And it's likely accurate "shade" as well. I can imagine athletes (actually a good amount of celebrities in general) are more prone to hanging out with people who don't have the best character. Jackson might have used a negative term, but it's not racist and it is likely an appropriate description.
     
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    Agree.

    But...

    PJ= Zen Master.... and also.... Master of "Rub People The Wrong Way"
     

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