“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― George Carlin I'm out of here (the D&D) for a while. I'm going to redirect my anger towards more positive things. Don't think of it as beating me or me running off. I've simply decided there's no point in arguing with many of you. I'm not going to change your mind and you're definitely not going to make me change mind. I'm not going off to my corner. I'm going to figure out how I can do more to help affect things. I sure as s*** will not sit down and shut up.
I believe that the formation of ISIS and the war with Syria are the direct cause of the US trying to secure oil assets in the Middle East. Partner that with an increase of drone strikes is not winning us many friends over there. We complained about Bush getting us into all of this, but I never saw Obama do anything to get us out. I see a man who instead increased our involvement and then during the election goaded Russia into a fight with the US to win an election for Hilary.
I never understood how or why people worship their rulers with such passion. Happened with Obama and happened with Trump. It's disgusting.
You know what? Maybe I do have it you wrong. My assessment of you was a little harsh since I don't really know who you are. I'm glad that your feeling good. I just don't understand the unbridled glee that you have for witnessing people in this country who have legitimate concerns and fears about their future.I guess you feel those concerns are unfounded and amount to lefty BS and hypocrisy. And, hey. Perhaps you're right. But name calling and telling posters to sit down and shut up doesn't exactly expose their hypocrisy. It makes them angry and makes them think of you in a way you might think of them. I'm just guessing you probably have or had real concerns for your welfare in the past, and somebody may have tried to shout you down with things you knew we're not true and it incensed you. I have told many of my friends, IRL and otherwise to go out and get some fresh air, live your life, and try to listen to what "the other side" has to say. This election has been a sickening descent into madness from factions on both sides. Most of us are simply tired and at least a little concerned about where we, as people, go from here. Take care.
I'm not religious and I want it overturned because I think the word marriage is being corrupted. Like I said regarding the youth, conservatism is on a rebound and soon, they'll be thinking in another way.
People like populists..... whether right or left wing... that is why they are called that. Trump is just from another world.
If you checked what happened in the Ukraine, you'll be surprised at how aggressive the EU has been. They provoked that war because they egged people into joining them. The overthrow of the Ukrainian president wasn't even a national movement but mostly in Kiev. There were actual EU officials in Kiev telling the people to riot. The EU warning Russia shouldn't just do whatever it wants is supreme irony.
Honestly what proof do you have of this other than your word? I just showed you a map where if it were up to young people wins 504-23. How is that a rebound for conservatism among the youth? Among young conservatives...http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage/ 61% and that is among conservatives... Where is your proof of what you say? There is a HUGE gap here, you go issue by issue and you'll see 18-25 year olds or Millennials period are very very liberal.
I've made my feeling known about Mr Trump already in my previous post. I will hold him accountable for his actions and the way he governs our great Republic. In a few years if we're going down the wrong path again he will be voted out. I did not see that with king Barry's disciples do you?
While I agree with your overall statement about gay marriage being a settled issue, I don't think bringing up how the kids voted is relevant. Kids ALWAYS vote liberal.....and then they grow up. It was former hippies that elected Reagan. I'm pretty sure you could make a map like this for just about every election in modern times. The youngest among us are usually those who trend left and I don't expect that to change any time soon.....but I also don't think that those kids will stop growing up and moving right.
It would be easy to get the 18-25 year old vote. Hey guys, who wants free college and no debt! The democrats say it every election cycle and do nothing. They get the votes though. Older people are more conservative. I wonder why!?
Well you might as well get used to the idea because the notion of gay marriage being a constitutionally protected thing is set on extremely solid foundation in law and was confirmed by a conservative SCOTUS. Also, you're setting yourself up for failure if you think kids are going to become conservative. Kids always trend to the left before they grow up and move to the right. It's just how it goes.....in fact, if you want to slow down their move to the right, the best way to do that is by attacking civil rights which no true conservative would support.
FYI, just because you're republican necessarily doesn't mean you're conservative. Like I said, the mood now is that conservatism is on a rebound. I'm fairly confident a year or two from now, opinion among the youth will have changed. Like what?
Actually yes, his supporters were saying that exact thing when he was president elect. It's all just talk. And talking about how you're going to be tough on him at some point in the future while currently having a hand down his pants makes me think yours is just all talk too. But, I guess we'll see.
This theory has been deunked. Every generation are passionate about issues and those issues do not just change. Millenials are passionate about the environment and civil rights, I really don't think that this is going to change. As you can see...generations tend to have a preference and it's not so simple as "You get older and get more conservative."
Again, where is your actual proof of this? I think if you actually think that young people are going to just go "Yep, gay marriage is wrong." you are delusional and probably live in a conservative bubble and haven't talked to these people.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/12/lithuania-donald-trump-nato-putin-fears And we already hear that Putin wants US to pull back on NATO whatever that means. Not a real good look for your allies. My point is, the little blurb about a US-Russia stronger alliance doesn't mean stability in Europe. This idea that Trump being president means that is silly, by being weak towards Russia it could mean major instability in the region.
That was how it used to be when conservatism was mainstream. But conservatism is the counter-culture now. Conservatives won the election. And the way they won it, mostly through a grassroots army on the ground and on the web has facilitated the spread of conservative ideas. I don't know what you mean by "representative of the entire country". If he's representing America internationally, sure. But if you're suggesting the notion that the president should go round robin the entire populace and grant everyone's wishes one by one, that's not true. He ran on a platform, like you said, and he's expected to execute.
