Even though the phrase wasn't used, Sanders and Trump were the "hope and change" candidates this year, like Obama was 8 years ago. Once that became apparent, Clinton was doomed. Simple as that. Obama lost about 3.6 million votes from 2008 to 2012. That should've been a red flag for Clinton's campaign, who was considered Obama's 3rd term. And Clinton was stuck between a rock and a hard place because it's impossible to defend TPP, Obamacare, prior Wall Street speeches when she wasn't running for anything, and the Iran nuclear agreement to many voters once the Bernie/Trump movements got started. Wikileaks and Comey then added icing to the cake.
As someone who has already gone through the 5 stages of grief, here's what I can say as an optimist. Even if Clinton did get elected, it would once again be with a red Senate and House. Minimum 4 more years of gridlock. Not being able to make the supreme court nomination is really the only major disappointment here. But with Trump winning, the GOP has literally no excuse now. Everything went their way here. The President, Senate, and House is now theirs. They have 4 years to show they are improving the country. If they do, then you know what? Good for them and good for all of us. If they fail though? Uninspired Democrat voters who didn't show up this year will be there at the polls 4 years from now (and hopefully at midterms too) to vote for a candidate that will be fairly elected by a revamped DNC and democrat primary. There are no more establishment candidates for the party to carry all the way to the general election.
That's the interesting part. Trump's plan involve a lot of public spending from infrastructure, to "border control", to defense. The GOP has soundly rejected public spending and increasing the debt under Obama. Not to mention protectionism is not something the GOP has supported. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Yep, we could still see gridlock, this time within the GOP despite having full control. That would be embarrassing. If that happens though, we could see something very fascinating. Could the result of the Trump presidency actually be the uniting of moderate Republicans and Democrats? They could be on the same side of veto and bill decisions more than anytime in recent memory. Maybe having a common enemy is what was needed to finally get both parties to get along and be civil. Everything happens for a reason, as they say.
I would be happy that we actually did some large public spending on infrastructure as a result of it. However, it would prove the GOP wasted their time with Obama. The protectionism is what worries me the most as that has become a populist issues on both sides of the aisle.
Every time you call someone an idiot, call trump an idiot you inflame the situation and strengthen their resolve. Every. Single. Time.
Meh... it's clear now they could still be called idiots if Sanders or Warren was the candidate. The masses wanted milk, honey, and a circus. I hadn't thought a socialist could win but the anti-thesis of a tea party candidate won as a republican so this was an election of the heart not the mind.
You think an open socialist would have beaten Trump? I agree the DNC screwed themselves by crowning Hillary before the primaries even began, but I seriously doubt Bernie would have won a general election.
The masses are regretting the circus already, at least from where I sit. The extremists of right and left continuing their rhetoric is but salt in a gaping wound. Every insult lobbed at each other is driving them to further and further lengths. It has to stop. I hope dignity is returned to either side and they are brought closer. Name calling... seriously.
What can one do when logic and facts don't matter? I wish it wasn't like this but look at the vitriol that has been spewed about Obama and Clinton. The right media machine worked overtime to skew perception. Taking the high road lately doesn't produce results.
Looking the part and Being the part are two different things Hillary simply said the right things and acted the right way . . but at the end of the day people were unconvinced Trump was Trump but Hillary was a f***ing MYSTERY BOX to most people. Also . . .. time to go Full Picard Rocket River
The left media machine didn't? This was an election practically based on skewed perceptions. From all sides. And taking the low road, it's going to have helped no one. As if there were 2 ideas to every problem we face as a society, people have forgotten that moving the country forward comes before "being right" about an issue. For example, I don't personally believe in abortions but I don't think my thoughts on the matter should affect or decide what's right for you. It might save your life. It might save a meager life of pain. It might just be a responsibility you know you can't handle. Certainly, it shouldn't be lightly considered but I don't think it often is. Maybe they don't matter to some but I don't abandon logic and reality just because people stick their fingers in their ears.
The problem with this line of thinking is that A LOT of damage can be done in 4 years for short term gain where the long term consequences won't be obvious until many more years later. Drumpfster's plan, as I understand them, basically consists of: 1. Print lots of money 2. Deregulate 3. Put people back to work in coal mines and steel mills (the people of WV thank you) 4. ??? 5. Profit!! Yo, Drumpf, China from 2008 called, and they want their blueprint back. America, look at China's air and water pollution, soil erosion and food and drug safety (or the lack thereof), and that's what you can look forward to if Drumpf follows through on his plan (which, btw, won't work long term--just look at where China is today with its currency, foreign reserve and falling exports).
Of course the left media did, but there's an objective reality here. Trump objectively lie considerably more than Clinton and is it surprising that the "left media" or "mainstream media" pointed out those lies which occurred in greater numbers? Maybe in the long run it will help no one but for at least the next two years the GOP will have majority control of Congress, high court appointments, and the white house. That's a tangible advantage to putting forth policies that was made possible by taking the low road.
I understand the joking nature but this is the kind of thing that led to the over-correction that is trump and will lead to another over-correction the other way. This is the kind of thing people need to just say it isn't worth it and let it go.
Wow, really? You're still in denial that this election was not the traditional Democrat vs Republican, but insider vs outsider, or establishment vs anti-establishment, or status quo vs hope & change? The millennials would've showed up to the polls more for Bernie. The Rust Belt democrats (Sanders beat Clinton in Michigan and Wisconsin) would've showed up to the polls more for Bernie. Any of the independents, moderate dems that were turned off by Clinton's dirty laundry being aired out and politicized like emails, Benghazi, Wall Street speeches, Clinton Foundation, Wikileaks, etc. would've been willing to vote for Sanders. Not to mention? Bernie Sanders is a male. Clinton did a little better with women overall than Obama in 2012, but it didn't even remotely make up for the amount of male voters she lost.
Denial of what? I just don't believe the country would elect a socialist for president. I don't believe Bernie would have even beaten Trump. Pretty much any other Democrat, probably would have beat Trump easily, but not Bernie.
