To people having trouble coming to terms with President Trump

I get your anger but that just isn't how the world or campaigning works. Only one candidate spoke to the rural (many times union) voter in the Midwest. That was Donald Trump. Yes he's a sexist and racist shithead but we live in the real world where not everyone thinks the same way as you or I. And you have to craft electoral strategies that cater to everyone if this country is to act as a single unit.

I live in Minnesota which stayed Blue but took a beating in comparison to the margins Obama got. In the northeastern part of the state which is a mining, timber and shipping region, union voters who always backed the Democratic Party voted for Trump. You can say they're all racist or sexist but these same voters voted happily for Obama twice. They saw Obama as the guy who would fight for them. Well in this election, Trump sold them on being the candidate that would fight for them. The Iron Range has been hit with job losses and stagnation and voters there have been looking for the candidate that would look after them. That candidate in their mind was Donald Trump. I realize you and I see through his charade but you and I are not the electorate.

Liberals need to get out of this habit of just writing off people who should be Democrats. We need to listen to their stories. Understand their concerns and address them. There's a reason why Bernie Sanders demolished Hillary Clinton in those regions during the primary. He spoke to them. She just didn't. I thought in the end they'd still see Hillary as the candidate who would fight for organized labor and the working class but that just didn't happen.

 

That's just my point though, you can't assume that the people who voted for him condone his rhetoric. For a lot of people it came down to voting AGAINST Hillary.

Not only that, your assumption is simply false. I have very few friends who actually supported Trump, but the 2 who were fully in the bag for Trump from the beginning one has 2 black children and the other is from El Salvador. When people throw around blanket labels like that all they do is piss people off.

 

Apparently you don't know what "being glib for effect" means. It isn't that you don't have time, it is that you don't have the "tolerance" you and your lefty friends claim to champion.

I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm also going to call a charlatan a charlatan. You are a fraud. You are just as intolerant as Trump, as you think that you know why or how people chose to vote for Trump.

 

His acceptance speech was well done, easily his best speech and a good start. His old quotes prove that he's been thinking about this for a very long time now. So who knows with the guy, I just won't be surprised if that old rhetoric slips in during his presidency.

I think the main reason he won is because not enough people came out and voted. Obama got 60 million plus both times, one time getting 69 million votes. 10 million more than Clinton.

The reason Clinton lost is because she was a terrible candidate, always had been. Ran against Obama who never should have won (or they thought at the time) and lost. Then ran against Bernie who came out of virtually nowhere to create havoc for her. No one likes her enough to be president.

 

Absolutely. These 2 candidates are the absolute bottom of the barrel, both are national embarrassments. They both attracted some really childish, really stupid people.

 

Considering everything we know about how rowdy Trump rallies got against the civil Clinton rallies, 100% without a doubt.

 

A huge part of this is that this election certainly suggests that there is some truth behind those who say that black people will only show up in large numbers to vote if there is a black person on the ballot. Hillary needed a strong turnout from that demographic to deliver states like Michigan and they stayed home.

 

I'm not angry because it's not my country. I'm scared and extremely dissapointed in the human race and america. I used to stand up all the time for you guys when people said "dumb americans" .. I have to eat now crow on that. You voted TRUMP for president. Doesn't get more stupid than that. Even the mere thought would be bordering ridiculous a few months ago. Yet it happened.

I don't know about Minny but if it's a little like Winsconsin from what I have learned from Bucks fans there are a LOT of racist people over there.

And as I said. A person who is absolutely not racist even subconsiously would be disgusted with themselves for even thinking of voting Trump. They would never resort to that.

I have experience on that. A few years ago when the Golden Dawn first came to the scene as a political party a lot of people thought they will vote for it as a vote against the establishment and because they were tired for the financial crisis and unemployment and they wanted "change". . When the time came for me to vote , even though I hated every single contender and I also wanted to cast a vote against the establishment, I became so disgusted that I could't cast a vote in favour of a racistic POS. Never.

 

Both had unfavorable ratings above 60%, so the majority of people weren't going to be happy either way.

To be fair, the DNC has been caught on record causing unrest at Trump's rallies - including gloating about having him cancel one of his appearances in Chicago. This loss, is a byproduct of that culture. Stay classy, DNC.

 

Well no, Romney was a legitimate (although a really poor one) Republican candidate for president.....not a reality TV star who was a complete joke.

 

well there's only been ONE black person ever on the ballot so drawing conclusions based off of 1 single data point is clearly stupid. Obama might have been black and charismatic which is why he got a higher turnout, put a bozo like Ben Carson on the ballot and see what happens with black turnout.

 

A small dip in both Hispanic and Black voters for Clinton.

Actually, I believe it was thought Trump would get less than 5% of the black vote, some even had it like at 1 or 2 IIRC. He actually increased those demographics and Clinton decreased them. That on top of the pissed off progressives probably adds up to million of voters who just either protest voted for Johnson or didn't show up at all.

I actually think not enough is being made of Trump doing so well with black and hispanic voters.

 

I'm pretty certain that blacks like whites or people from El Salvador as well as Japanese etc can all be racists islamophobes xenophobes and bigots.
I have no intention nor I care for pissing ppl off. I call it as I personally see it. That actions ALWAYS speak louder than words. That Trump suggested a policy based on clear racistic undertones and that was a central part of his rhetoric. and that someone who was not even in a subconscious level racist Islamophobe or sexist would never cast their vote for him.

 

Well 2 things,

1. In those 2 elections with Obama on the ballot you have by a huge margin the highest black voter turnout ever......and those people didn't show up to vote in the mid-terms or for Hillary.

2. Only black Democrats count as black people to the majority of black people. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true. There's all manner of hatred that is thrown at any black person that has the audacity of thinking for themselves.

Well I think that higher percentage has more to do with how few black people showed up to vote than it does anything else.

 

You know who you sound like, right? Donald Trump during the past 18 months.