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What's your personal biggest fear of Trump's presidency?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DudeWah, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. DAROckets

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    Don't think its' possible to pardon someone who hasn't been convicted
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    According to a really old SCOTUS ruling, pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.
     
  3. Svpernaut

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    Two more years of liberals blaming everyone but their terribly run and corrupt party.
     
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  4. Chilly_Pete

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    I fear for freedom of speech and religion.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    Actually, I think it is.
     
  6. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    I think the doom and gloom is just a bunch of hype. The biggest changes are going to be slightly lowered taxes for most people, and modification of the Healthcare laws (for better or worse), new maternity leave, increases in border security spending (no wall, just more border patrol), and a return to the enforcement of immigration laws that we had before the justice department stopped enforcement 4 years ago.

    Everything is just the actual practical application of the campaign retoric:

    Tax brackets will be lowered back to Bush era, and Obamacare surcharges will be dropped.
    Obamacare won't be totally destroyed, but it will be greatly changed (for better or worse).
    I think they will push an institution of 6 weeks maternity because it would be popular with both sides.
    Rather than "build a wall", they will increase border security through additional officers and technology.
    They won't "throw out all the illegals", but they will return to enforcement of the current laws on the books that the Justice Department currently ignores (so back to pre 2012 enforcement). This one is easy. He doesn't even have to change any laws. Just enforce the ones we've always had.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I agree with you here, it's no different than the flipping out that happened when Obama was elected.....and the world still spins.

    I disagree with you here, they'll completely repeal it within the first 100 days. Now what they put in it's place might be sort of similar though.
     
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    They may repeal and replace, but I think they keep the popular stuff. Keep insurance exchanges, just make them national, not by state. Things like keeping your kiddos on insurance until 25, and various other things will hang around. I think you'll see expansion of medicare and medicaid to fill more gaps, rather than a single payer system.
     
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  9. Bobbythegreat

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    That's fair. I was just saying that they will make it a point to officially repeal Obamacare and they'll have a ceremony for it. It was one of the few things that Trump ran on that he could actually do.
     
  10. Chilly_Pete

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    What you suggest sounds reasonable, but Trump didn't run on softened rhetoric. What makes you think he will change now?
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The same reason Obama never closed down Gitmo despite running on that. When you are nothing but an ignorant candidate you can say all sorts of ridiculous things that you don't know that you can't actually accomplish like both Obama and Trump did. Once you become president you find out the reality of the situation pretty quickly though.
     
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  12. Corrosion

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    YEAH CAUSE na


    We'll have to wait and see .... but I believe your fears are unfounded , even if our economy tanks , we still have the worlds most powerful military which no country on earth wants to tangle with.
    Consider for a moment that many of Trumps detractors think he has a short fuse and would use nuclear options ..... if that's truly the case , don't you think Russia would be afraid of that mutually assured destruction ??
     
  13. Haymitch

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    What?
     
  14. Chilly_Pete

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    I hope you are right. I don't really know what to expect from Trump, all I see is the caricature that we saw during the Election. Call it a fear of the unknown, but I feel like he could go off the rails at any time.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    I think he'll get his policies from the GOP leaders, so I'm not really worried about that so much as I am worried about his stupid mouth and his temperament. I agree, he could absolutely go off the rails at any time for just about any reason and that's a bit horrifying, but I'm not worried from a policy standpoint.
     
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    Congress could have made those changes under Obama. But, you probably can't maintain the exchanges without either a mandate or single-payer.
     
  17. Corrosion

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    I was a bit roasted .... and my keyboard glitched out , I didn't proof read the post.

    What I was attempting to state was that current trade deals have been very poor for the USA .... NAFTA costs us more than just dollars.
     
  18. Haymitch

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    I too don't like nafta. I just don't like the idea of otherwise worsening trade relations with China or Mexico (for reasons that have to do with my job). His talk of going after China for devaluing their currency (a la the Fed) is troubling, as well as any foreign relations damage that might be done by him trying to get Mexico to pay for a wall.
     
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    The danger are the white supremacist groups who are sure to use this Trump victory as their victory to go on a recruitment drive.
     
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    Anything he can do, can ultimately be undone over time, with one big exception.....

    Climate Change

    If in this nightmare scenario, the right starts undoing enviornmental safeguards, we are in big big trouble.
     
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