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It is over the idiots won - President Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. tmacfor35

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    Ehhh. Who knows after they sift through all the zombies who miraculously made it to the ballots in the swing states.
     
  2. malakas

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    And I see people from Istambul Cesme and Izmir and most of the north Anatolian coast who now fear for their lives and try to escape or at least send their kids away. That have to hide their beliefs or else put in prison. That can't even access the Internet anymore but don't trust the news in tv because there is no free press. That come to my island every weekend so they can be free even for a bit from the opression.
     
  3. CometsWin

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    Yep. Idiots.
     
  4. leroy

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    It could've been you, Joe.
     
  5. pirc1

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    Yes. The DNC choose Hillary and pretty much persuaded people like Biden and Warren not to run, what a mistake.
     
  6. Hakeemtheking

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    This.

    DNC elites (read Debbie f*cling Wasserman) need to stop pushing their preferred candidates at the expense of more electable people. Biden would not have lost the so-called blue wall of WI, PA, and MI. smh...
     
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  7. mdrowe00

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    Well....

    President-Elect Trump should get those Twitter privileges back now...;)
     
  8. Brown Lost It

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    Are you Kurdish?
     
  9. sew

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    Watching all of this form north of the border has been riveting.
     
  10. Dark Rhino

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    Fairly certain the rape of a 13 year old girl was debunked; turns out she lied about it. This said, I'll chalk up the name calling from you to your emotional stat of being. This educated minority does NOT fall into the narrative you're building for yourself.

    Oh, if the guy who's a billionaire several times over is a "moron", what does that make the rest of us?
     
  11. mdrowe00

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    ...that's the thing about the American Presidency....

    ...domestically, it's used to build political coalitions and form voting consensus. Presidents propose ideas for domestic policy, basically, based on the populist nature of their candidacy...which is why sometimes a President can "cross" party lines to achieve certain legislative agendas.

    ...Personally, I was never as concerned about the prospect of Donald Trump winning (it was a two-horse race at the end of the day, and he was one of the horses, like it or not), as I may have been about how he might choose to govern.

    I'm also not as concerned with domestic affairs as I am with international ones, because the other thing about the Presidency is that it is virtually autonomous in dealing with foreign nations. The strain of thought that says strict isolationism or old-school colonialism are the options America has to choose from in the world today could be irreparably damaging, but it will get to play itself out now.

    We'll see if the checks and balances of our American Democratic system are able to stand up to what The Donald is likely to subject them to as his Presidency begins.
     
  12. malakas

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    Nope.
    As for people standing in front of tanks I'm sure North Koreans would as well for Kim Jong un. The one the turks love as an idol is Ataturk not Erdogan. And for most of them in the west coast it had nothing to do with Erdogan. It was between a military dictatorship that has never ended well in their history vs democracy. But what they got was not democracy but another dictatorship.
     
  13. Brown Lost It

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    You're probably Kurdish or Greek. Both hate Turkey, because of the 4-centuries-long occupation of Greece by the Ottoman Empire.

    I am an unbiased third party whereas you are the abused crazy ex-girlfriend.
     
  14. No Worries

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    The girl-now-woman received death threats and then decided to drop the law suit.
     
  15. malakas

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    Oh you have to actually rape a 13 year old girl to be called a name? I guess what else he has has said about women is overblown as well and doesn't deserve an offensive adjective by the "educated minority" .
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    I don't think this was necessarily a referendum on Clinton's policies... with a healthy dose of hindsight, I think what people, pollsters, etc., missed is that, while obviously ideologically opposites, Sanders and Trump were riding the same wave: a deep-seated desire to break apart Washington because the vast majority of Americans think that it is broken*. They were anti-establishment and Clinton embodies the establishment. As we saw with Jeb Bush in the primaries - which, again, with hindsight, should have been out first clue - I think any vestige of establishment would have been in trouble this year, either side.

    And really, this has roots, I think, in 2008 - Obama was anti-establishment, a fresh perspective, slaying the establishment, built on a foundation of change. This wave has been building and I don't think it's subsided by any means with Trump.

    From that perspective, last night makes more sense and it'll be interesting to see how (or if) it plays out as Trump is in the unique position of not only not owing the Republicans much (if anything) but potentially being openly hostile to their establishment. I'm sure Ryan will get in line - but will Trump work with him?...

    The other referendum, I think, is that in a rush to right many legitimate wrongs within several minority communities, the Democrats have gone too far in dismissing/ignoring lower middle class and poor whites, who have watched the Democrats openly campaign to all these groups who have been held down and held back and I think they'd had enough. They have their faults (religion and guns) - but their struggles are every bit as real and as difficult as any other minority group's and I think too many Democrats dismissed them as nonviable because, I think and fear, "Hey, you're white - you're among the privileged."

    There is no privilege among poor white people in Kentucky or West Virginia or Detroit, and if the Democrats are going to recover from this, I think those are their two road maps - find an "outsider" (Warren jumps immediately to mind) and stop marginalizing too many white people who have different but nonetheless legitimate obstacles to finding solid footing in this country.

    * I know Sanders has been a senator for 71 years and is very much establishment - but he successfully positioned himself as counter to Washington, having been an independent and a long-time outspoken opponent of business as usual politics.
     
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  17. TheRealist137

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    Biden or Bernie would have beat Trump. Clinton was the wrong choice at the wrong time and it has screwed the country for the foreseeable future.
     
  18. malakas

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    Turkish tourists make the majority of the touristic income in my hometown. Furthermore every weekend citizens from either country travel each way even to buy groceries. I definitely don't hate them. What I hate is oppression.
     
  19. Brown Lost It

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    You're biased. Honestly, I expect you to lie. The hate is too strong.
     
  20. TheresTheDagger

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    My advice to the left here.

    Clean up your party. Its corrupt to the core in the DNC right now. Come back in 4 years with an electable candidate and make him a 1 term president if you can.

    One last thing. When you say you're a party for ALL the people, stop mocking/ignoring/hating the side that didn't vote for you.
     
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