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How do both parties evolve from here?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    So Donald Trump will be the next President. What kind of an effect will this have for both parties? Any predictions on the kind of shifts we can expect in the Republican and Democratic Party platforms? This event seems like it could be precipitate a massive shakeup.

    Here's hoping that whatever changes come, its for the better.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Step 1: Erase from history the stain on America left by Obama's disastrous policies.

    Step 2: Eliminate the wide ranging corruption that the Democrats ushered in

    Step 3: Provide a massive reality check to the media, who was directly responsible for firing up middle America to go to the polls and reject Crooked Hillary Clinton


    GOOD DAY
     
  3. A_3PO

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    The GOP will be remade in Trump's image. Anti-Trump elected officials will either repent or be castrated. Curious to see if Paul Ryan survives.

    Too early to tell on the Dem side other than to say Clinton Inc is finally out of business for good after a 25 year run. Thank goodness!
     
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    i don't think the Dems change. they lost because Hillary was a bad candidate. I'm curious if Castro will be the VP pick next time. If Texas had finished closer to purple I could have seen it happening, but with a 10% gap I'm not so sure anymore.

    We may see a conservative third party form. I read a rumor that Huntsman may run for senate as a third party in 2018.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    There are already calls to remove Paul Ryan.

    John Kasich's political career is over. Kelly Ayotte appears to be done and likely ends her political career.

    The Republican party will face a very interesting challenge now about what to do and who to become and the implications extend beyond just four years. His voters essentially voted for their own "hope and change" candidate and instead of world peace and lower ocean levels like Obama gets mocked for promising, Trump said "all of your dreams" will come true. LOL

    Trumpism Hope and Change:
    -Increased manufcaturing jobs
    -Higher wages for everyone
    -A wall
    -"law and order"
    -Fixing the "inner city" (read black) crime problem
    -overturning roe v wade
    -4% economic growth
    -no more wars
    -no more terrorism
    -defeat ISIS
    -Repeal Obamacare
    -Give us the best healthcare in the world
    -No more corruption
    -Term limits in Congress
     
  6. TheRealist137

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    really depends on what happens during Trump's first year as presidency. I doubt the Dems go into full crisis mode right away, they have to see if Trump is a total disaster or not. If he is, then the Democrats can just stay the course.
     
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    It would be a mistake for the democrats to not change at all, part of the reason their base wasn't energized is because they have shifted too far to the center. Hopefully this means that Sanders and Warren type progressives get a bigger seat at the table.
     
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    Michelle Obama 2020
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    It does seem like a 1964-like shift for the Republicans, and they have some internal philosophical inconsistencies now. They can be fiscally conservative, but not economically conservative -- that is, maybe they can cut spending, but they are now no longer the party of free trade. But, I can't imagine this is a strategy with staying power. The central promise that won them these Midwest states -- to restore good traditional manufacturing jobs like the good ole days -- they can't deliver on, and what protectionist policies they'd have to pursue to try will create a conservative reaction.

    I think the Democrat strategy is still pretty sound. @JayGoogle might be right they were too centrist, ironically. Clinton is apparently too free-market to win the blue collar Midwest voter. Sanders would have scored better with that demographic (though maybe not others).

    Democrats don't really have the power to block anything at the moment, but the last thing I want to see them do if they gain in the Congress later is mindless obstructionism of whatever Trump wants to do. As it turns out, the Republicans make out like bandits on that strategy with this Trump victory. But, I don't think payback is good for the country. Of course, they should oppose things that are really bad ideas. I just don't want to see them obstruct needlessly.
     

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