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Tyler Ennis is terrible

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatboyPhuong, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Cashmoney

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    I hate rubio but your comparison is a massive de-service to ricky. Rubio is trash but he can drop dimes like no tomorrow and looks confident with ball in hand, he's solid on D too.
     
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    I agreed with 90% of your post but -

    No, it was not even close to a good move/trade for us.

    And no, it did not satisfy a massive hole, because it's still as gaping as ever. And that combo would be better than the one we have right now.
     
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    The Rockets team last year is different from the Rockets team this year, even the coaching philosophy and players on the court are different the only mainstays are Harden, Ariza, Brewer and Capela. Last year he was needed because the starting lineup had 3 players who couldn't score on their own (Dwight, Ariza, Bev), and the bench didn't have any scorer. This year we have Anderson and Gordon taking up the offensive load alongside Harden, and off the bench Gordon and Nene take majority of the shots since they're good scorers. We don't need scoring, we need defense and rebounding which is what Beasley doesn't provide whereas last year it was the opposite with both Josh Smith and Howard being good defenders and rebounders.

    We should look at his stats NOW because if we signed him this is the Beasley we will get NOW, just like if you signed Josh Smith NOW, you would get the Josh Smith who can't get an offer and is bound for China rather than the Josh Smith who was instrumental in the WCF run 2 years ago. Its 7 games on the season, but by the same token the Rockets have only played 7 games. If Beasley had stayed on the team put up the same numbers as he is doing on the Bucks will you be as patient with him? NO! You'd say he sucks and should traded, basically he'll be given the Bobby Brown/Brewer treatment so I don't know why you think his stats last year are still relevant. Past performance is an indicator but does not guarantee future performance.
     
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  4. Remlap

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    I don't understand the Tyler Ennis fan club
    I don't hate the kid, just would rather he be a spectator

    It's like people are excited because he can wear a uniform, dribble down the court pretty fast and pass to someone. SMH. . .
    And he can barely do that

    Can't (and won't) shoot, can't finish, can't even make 2 FT's
    He also forces turnovers because his defenders wisely sag off of him and dare him to shoot.
    But instead he gets scared and tries to force the ball to someone who's already covered.

    What are we supposed to be excited about again?
     
  5. roslolian

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    It was a good trade because Beasley would've been benched and just a waste of a roster spot, and we would've been boned because we would've kept Bobby Brown and then he will play all the minutes Ennis has played so far.
     
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    You're not supposed to be excited about him, he's a 3rd string scrub. But the point is he is serviceable as a 3rd string scrub, that's why he's important to the team. We keep the lead close when Harden sits and he comes in with the 2nd unit, that's enough for a 3rd string scrub.
     
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  7. Cashmoney

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    Yeah Brown is awful but I dont agree with the rest entirely. Ennis is just so bad. You may be a good friend of his or something (I've noticed you stick up for him) which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But he is just awful. Hes not quite as bad as Brown but hes still straight garbage. I'm confident I could beat him in a three point contest
     
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    I honestly don't think beasley would be getting pt right now on our team. I don't think the plan either was for ennis to have to play this much. I understand people like prigs with his high IQ and can shoot the 3 well but i think ennis is a nice move as the 3rd pg. We will have to see if he can ever get comfortable and not be so timid out there because i think we all can agree that Tyler looks scared sometimes when he has the ball. Don't understand the hype on Bobby Brown. Think that dude is destined to be a towel waver on the bench
     
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    Someone who sees what I see. Cheers lad. You are right 100%. Morey fails once again at a simple task.
     
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    I can also beat Howard in a ft contest, doesn't matter because his other qualities make him NBA level and you don't.

    I'm not related to Ennis I just don't like people complaining about him and then pining for Beasley or Brown, 2 guys worse than the guy they're complaining about. I also adjust my expectations according to the role they have people are expecting Ennis to be a an all stat when he's a 3rd string scrub the Rox even declined his option because they know nobody will give him more than the minimum. If we can find a better pg I'm all for letting him go but until that happens it doesn't make sense to keep bashing him when he's doing his role adequately.
     
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    Maybe so and you could well be right. But trading him for Ennis? Horrible call.

    As for Ennis, my point is we could have picked up a far better player in free agency like we should have for very little. But instead Morey was crunching numbers to see how efficient underhanded free throws are. Asleep at the wheel.

    I don't rate Beasley that highly but the tradr itself was a poor one, would have made more sense holding onto him and packaging him for something of actual use
     
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    Beasley so far on the Bucks:
    6.6 pts, 51% FG, .167% 3P, 1.1 Rebs

    Do we have a need for a stretch PF who can't hit 3s, can't rebound and can't defend but can score in the paint? He's basically an undersized, homeless man's Nene we have no use for him pairing him with Nene means no defense at all and pairing him with Capela means the paint is crowded and Harden can't work his magic.
     
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    Exactly?? We just had the entire off season and free agency to solve this. We did NOTHING. We could find a better pg in about a day. Farmar just got waived by the grizzlies... He isnt very good either but its light and day between Ennis. Watch Morey take another nap on this one too.

    Its embarassing how poorly this roster is put together
     
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    If Farmar was that good why would he be waived by the Grizzlies who need a 2nd/3rd pg themselves?

    You have no clue on Farmar other than name recall.

    Just cause you think a player is better doesn't automatically mean he's better, Morey and MDA aren't evaluating players by themselves they have a bunch of people helping them look for players and do the deals. Are you saying you're better than the entire Rockets office put together so you can see all these amazing pgs just waiting to be signed but they can't? If they couldn't get it done I doubt its so easy you can find a better pg in just 1 day.
     
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    Ennis is a 3rd string PG. He will not play when Bev comes back except very sparingly. Farmar adds nothing to our team that Ennis wouldn't provide in that role. Beasley doesn't fit our system at all and obviously our front office and coaching staff wasn't high on him with the new system. Ennis was a first round pick a couple of years ago and might develop into something good
     
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    I'm not sure what you're talking about. Gordon & Anderson are shooters but Gordon is the only one off the bench that can get his own shot consistently. When Gordon's 3pt shot is off, like it was against ATL, he's useless. Beasley is a midrange player who can score regardless of what system he's in. He's instant offense at the SF/PF positions. Him w/ Gordon would've been PERFECT coming off the bench (with Beasley's skillset). What's the strategy in trading away a shot creator for a useless point guard? Ennis does absolutely nothing good. The west is too good to trade scoring away and get nothing in return.

    Lmao. You do realize Bucks aren't the Rockets. A players role on one team is totally different on another. Milwaukee may not need another playmaker at PF. They may not play at the pace we play. From what I see, MDA's offense would utilize Beasley's skillset better than Ennis's (that is IF Ennis even has a skillset). Comparing Beasley's numbers on a TOTALLY different organization is ridiculous, especially given just last year he was our 2nd best playmaker behind Harden. We saw first hand what he can do. What exactly does Ennis do?
     
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    Not sure where that poster got Grizzlies from. He just got waived by the Kings to make room for Collison's return from suspension.
     
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    He plays like **** every time, dude plays 14 min and gets 3 or 4 TO. I don't get on the this guy that guy suck threads but this dude is seriously horrible. They could have gotten somebody out of Russia for some toilet paper (old socialist joke) and been better off.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Why we cut Prigs for this guy is beyond me.

    DD
     
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    We should have cut Brown for Prigs...
     

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