It depends on who we are talking about. Pro athletes won the gene pool lottery. Making it to the NBA obviously requires hard work, but I can't necessarily quantify all of them as harder workers than any random grocery sacker. Luckier sure. But hard work isn't measured by talent as much as by effort. And the pro athlete who takes 3 months off for the summer is hardly a "harder worker" than the grocery sacker holding down 2 jobs working 75 hours a week...at least not in my book. It all depends on the individuals we are talking about.
Yet you are the party that says people who have low-income jobs shouldn't be having families or whatnot. I think it's ridiculous to compare someone who bags groceries (most of whom are kids working for a bit of extra cash) are as hard working as someone who has put in enormous effort to sculpt and maintain their body, train and train, practice and practice and travel extensively for work. These guys in college alone get up at 5am to practice then class and then practice again - not to mention they actually have to find time to do strength training and homework.
Are you just looking for an argument? I said it depends on the individual. You know, its possible that same college athlete you're talking about might ALSO be sacking groceries in his little bit of downtime. I guess because he sacks groceries though, he's not as much of a "hard worker" as his teammates who are busy....not working. What is so hard to understand about the statement..."it depends"?
Then you aren't saying anything because there is always a depends. You were making a broader generalization that was at best goofy.
Again, something I never said. But yes there is always a depends, which is why I said 'nearly' every NBA player. I don't think Hasheem Thabeet was a hard worker. I think he was a tall for nothing player. It was hinted that Arenas wasn't a hard worker though. Lots of people say "Haha, athletes just get lucky thanks to genes." eh. You think you are born with the ability to dribble and shoot? Dude worked his butt off to get to the NBA and then become an all-star player. In general terms though someone that is a sacker isn't a harder worker than an NBA player. They aren't a harder worker than a doctor or lawyer...it's why they are sacking. Now yes you have cases of some of these people working 2-3 jobs and obviously work their tails off and these people just lacked opportunity but there is always exceptions.
This is a ridiculous argument. As a matter of polite society all people should be treated with respect but I don't think there is anything inherent that an NBA player is worth more respect than a grocery sacker. An NBA player is certainly worth more money but I don't buy the idea that they inherently are harder workers. There are many grocery sackers who work many more hours a year than NBA players. Regarding the President I agree that as part of civil society we should treat the office with respect but we always need to remember President isn't king. Having been in countries where it actually is a crime to criticize political leaders I think one of the strengths of our country is that we are allowed to criticize and even viscously mock our leaders.
Basketball players vs Grocery workers. Get with the game. As for the OP and video. Good to see our leader showing respect for everyone, including and especially the other side. That's good leadership.
Just to contribute here: Hasn't Dennis Rodman both sacked groceries and played successfully in the NBA? We could ask him which was harder work. And by the way, he says he's a Trump voter, for what that's worth.
Yeah, because neither Hillary or Trump have misspoken or said something stupid on the campaign trail? Congratulations, you've confirmed that you are a sheep to the mass media narrative!
His answer on that was still better than you'd have gotten from Trump or Hillary and it showed that he was willing to field unscripted questions.....Hillary won't even do that for debates. Gary Johnson is a bit out there in some ways, but he's absolutely the only person that wouldn't be embarrassing to vote for. You can't say that for Hillary, Trump, or Stein.
Lulz Everybody gets so defensive of their candidate. I guess nobody talks about Johnson so you haven't had a chance to have the outrage dulled. But people get really touchy about their guy, whomever that is. it's like talking about religion or college football teams. Apparently, people's sense of identity becomes wrapped up in their guy - like by speaking Ill of him I am personally insulting you and your family. And he didn't misspeak. He didn't know where Aleppo was when it was the focal point of the Syrian civil war. The idea of a president who knows less about world affairs than me scares me. I'm sure he's a good guy, which you can't say about the two frontrunners, but that was one of the big triggers for me with former president Bush. Btw, calling people sheep or steeple is one of my big triggers, too. Its condesention from people who usually have no business being condesending to anybody past puberty.
