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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. mtbrays

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    "I'm not saying his middle name has any significance, I'm just pointing it out."
     
  2. Mr.Scarface

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    So people in the FBI leaked news of the Comey letter to the Trump campaign atleast a week (or longer) before it was sent to Congress. Rudy Giuliani went on Fox on October 26 bragging about something that would come out that would change the election. The FBI didnt give the Clinton campaign the same heads up. Talk about "RIGGED" election. This is a violation of the Hatch Act. Some one is trying to put the finger on the scale.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    That's not what I said. I was responding to specific things brought up which were largely BS. I don't doubt that it's possible that the last administration did things that were wrong, just not those things that you mentioned.....or they were just good enough to not leave evidence.

    So you are admitting that it was a legitimate investigation, you are just upset that politicians had political motives? LOL, okay. Part of the reason why they were able to focus so much of the investigation on Clinton, and the reason her servers and whatnot got brought up is because she tried to dodge the investigation for so long. She really brought it on herself. Also, it's no one else's fault that when they looked into Clinton they found gross negligence when it comes to handling classified information. That's 100% on her.

    I am convinced of what there is evidence to support when it comes to Clinton and while I'm not going to deny the possibility of wrongdoing by the last administration, I'm going to use the same standard when talking about both. Show me evidence and I'll go with that. Innuendo and emotional arguments simply isn't enough for me.
     
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    It also shows why conspiracies are incredibly difficult if not impossible to actually pull off. Giuliani couldn't keep quiet about it, and he's just one person. Imagine a conspiracy that is supposed to involve hundreds of people and different government agencies. It is more or less impossible to keep those conspiracies hidden.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    That's certainly an interesting way of looking at it. Rudy Giuliani was once a federal prosecutor.....I'm sure he has friends in the FBI just like I'm sure many people do. The FBI was in an uproar over Comey refusing to suggest indictment despite the evidence of criminality....I'm sure they talked about that to their friends. I think the larger violation was when the DOJ was putting pressure on the FBI to not suggest indictment and to actively shut down investigations into Hillary Clinton's criminal actions.

    Someone getting a heads up about the FBI forcing the director to release a letter about new evidence in a case isn't quite on the same level now is it? It's funny, you sounds like a Trump person calling things "rigged" due to the FBI being allowed to do their job instead of having the DOJ stop legitimate criminal investigations for political reasons. A large percentage of the FBI was about to resign over the DOJ's interference and that's what forced Comey's hand.
     
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    You mean like lying to the American people (and the families of the dead patriots) by stating it was caused by an internet video while sending an email to Chelsea that they were killed by an "Al Queda like group"?

    Nothing wrong there right?
     
  7. mc mark

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    Yep! Rudy's been bragging all over TV that the Trump campaign knew the Comey letter was coming.
     
  8. Space Ghost

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    When did Giuliani brag about the Comey letter? Or are you just assuming it was about the letter? I thought liberals loved their 'proof before accusations'.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    He went on CNN before the letter was released and it was clear he knew about what was about to happen.....but I don't see why that's a big deal. The FBI was flipping out over the DOJ interference that influenced Comey to refuse to suggest indictment along with obstructionism into other Clinton related investigations. When you have that many agents about to resign in frustration, they are going to talk to their friends about it.
     
  10. Mr.Scarface

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    Then let them resign. There is a house cleaning coming to the FBI. It's going to be BLOODY.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    If upwards of 90% of the FBI resign over DOJ obstructionism (according to some reports)....I mean how is that going to look? You simply can't allow that to happen. I'm sure you don't realize this, but it's not actually that easy to replace them. Do you know how much it costs to even get their basic security clearance done?

    I'm sure when Hillary is elected, she'll lash out at the FBI for having the audacity to investigate her criminal actions, so you are probably right about a "house cleaning" coming. When you elect a criminal, the first thing they'll want to do is rid the law enforcement agencies of everyone that can't be influenced by political power.
     
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    Dude acting like the FBI is McDonald's where you can clean house and still get people qualified enough to do the work ASAP.
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Liberal Logic 101.

    If there is any wrath to be felt, it will be middle management.
     
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    ^from the article

    Baier "clarified" his reporting Friday on the Fox News show Happening Now, hosted by Jon Scott.

    "On the hacking of Clinton's private, unsecured server: While multiple sources believe and are operating under the working assumption that the server has been hacked, and some had specific quotes to that belief, there are to this day no digital fingerprints of such breaches," Baier said Friday on the Fox News show Happening Now, hosted by Jon Scott.

    Baier admitted the report was based on a single, anonymous source.

    He then said his statement that an indictment was "likely" in the investigation into the Clinton Foundation was a "mistake." Baier had already backtracked somewhat the previous night, calling the wording "inartful."

    "Well, that just wasn't inartful, it was a mistake and for that I'm sorry," Baier said. "I should have said they will continue to build their case. Indictment obviously is a very loaded word, John, especially in this atmosphere and no one knows if there would or would not be an indictment no matter how strong investigators feel their evidence is."
     
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    I've seen this mentioned several times here and on other threads that Clinton's server had been hacked by five foreign intelligence services and Clinton will be indicte for it. Fox News is admitting this story is false and is apologizing for reporting on it.
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ctment/ar-AAjUiXP?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    Fox News apologizes for falsely reporting that Clinton faces indictment

    Fox News anchor Bret Baier apologized Friday for reporting that federal investigators had determined that Hillary Clinton’s private email server had been hacked and that an investigation would lead to an indictment of Clinton after the election.

    In fact, Baier said, after checking with his sources, there is no evidence at this time for either statement.

    More at link.
     
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    Really you think that Abu Ghraib was BS? There were convictions in that case. For that matter the no-bid contracts awarded to Halliburton are very well documented.
    Certainly there was a legitimate reason for the investigation what happened though was that committee members rapidly politicized it and admitted to doing so. It wasn't a search for truth it was a political fishing expedition that went into looking into things beyond the original purview.

    That said I agree that Clinton's server is on her and I've frequently said it was a mistake and and negligent.

    That is rich. You're the one who always jumps to conclusions on limited evidence and then sticks by them even when evidence counters that. Pretty much all of your postings here are based o your own read of limited evidence and even your assertion that you know more about the law than the head of the FBI and federal prosecutors.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    All of this has been discussed before and rather than dredge all fo that again I will remind you of this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi.html?_r=0

    "House Benghazi Report Finds No New Evidence of Wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton
    WASHINGTON — Ending one of the longest, costliest and most bitterly partisan congressional investigations in history, the House Select Committee on Benghazi issued its final report on Tuesday, finding no new evidence of culpability or wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton in the 2012 attacks in Libya that left four Americans dead."
     
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    Which of course was completed BEFORE the wikileaks dump showing Clinton was lying to the American public and the families of the dead patriots.

    She lied and now you're pretending this statement never took place because you like Clinton. Imagine what else all these newly discovered emails will reveal...
     
  20. tmacfor35

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    LOL Hilary is under investigation from the FBI for two different cases.

    Let's ignore it and whine because Giuliani knew what was going on.

    The crying is unreal.
     

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