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Source informed me That the rockets will sign Dmo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DMtheGM, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Codman

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    The calls for a GM who values chemistry more than Morey are pretty ridiculous. Of course, Morey takes ""gelling" (everyone's ideal word for "chemistry')into consideration when managing the team. It's more likely that those who refer to chemistry over and over (as if Morey has no clue...) have, once again, forgotten that their view is subjective. They have continually forgotten that what they assert to be a chemistry-friendly roster is probably part of preexisting subjectivity, and even more likely, misdiagnosed "favoritism" towards players. Sure, we all see the game from a different lens, but credibility develops when you can admit your biases for or against players/employees/life.

    DMo is cool. NeNe is cool. EG is dope. However, neither one of those players is going to put the Rockets over the top. Having DMo wouldn't influence much at this point, especially with the offense/defense MDA is using.

    I hope DMo is back, but we'll deal with things with or without him.
     
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    Just to add to speculation, is it possible---possible, mind you---that there is a team wanting DMo but has to trade for him to get him? And so, if we sign him now, he won't be trade eligibl
    Codman shows up and nothing about "ears"?

    "I am depressed." - Slim Pickens, Blazing Saddles
     
  3. malakas

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    So a team with a hole in the frontcourt, that doesn't plan to become a player in next year's FA and who is doing well enough to become a buyer.
    Toronto?
     
  4. Verbal Christ

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    Would DMo say 'F you all' and sign in Europe for the year? Seems like he's losing money every day he isnt playing basketball.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    What a load of BLECK! - that is not what I am talking about at all in refering to chemistry - I am talking about "On the court" chemistry and how certain PLAY STYLES fit together well.

    How you build a team with a group that all play a certain way, I do think Nene and Gordon are great pickups this year ( and yes I know Nene is your pal), we are a PnR team with off the ball movement, so I think Ryan Anderson is an OK fit, but he is not that much of a threat on the R portion of the PnR thus easy to shut down when focused upon.

    My point was that Morey has done a decent to above average job of getting talent, but a lot of times that talent does not fit together on the floor, Dwight Howard was an excellent example, I understand we had to TRY to get him but unless he was going to subjugate himself and run the PnR almost exclusively he was a waste of Harden's window.

    To me, even now there are players on the team who don't necessarily fit on this team - or the D'Antoni run style of play, that is precisely my point about chemistry - does Morey understand how STYLES of play fit together, and is he willing to build a team based upon that, and avoid the shiny new puppy in the window if that playstyle doesn't necessarily fit.

    This year's team Ironically fits better than many in several years, but there are still square pegs in round holes......I have yet to see a TEAM built under Morey that seems to have a laser like focus on play style.

    I am getting tired of people jumping to conclusions about chemistry - thinking it means getting along in the clubhouse, that is such rudimentary thinking - and below basketball discussion, IMO.

    DD
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    Hey Alannis Morrisette: this is what that word ironic means...

    DD-splaining what chemistry means to Codman of all people.

    Dude, you are a fop.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    FOP = FRICKEN OWNING PEOPLE !

    :)

    Oh, love Codman but he is wrong about DMo not helping particularly on defense as none of our bigs play positional D as well as he does.

    DD
     
  8. heypartner

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    When I read descriptions of the PnR like this, I just beg and plead with people to watch the videos I've been posting. We are doing MDA a disservice, by using simple descriptions of the PnR, as if it is always and only the Stockton/Malone version. I don't mind people saying we are a "PnR System", just so we at least realize as Rockets fans that MDA's version is far, far from the Sloan PnR system run a decade earlier in Utah.

    I think I've seen us run 1 maybe 2 Utah-style, simple PnRs with *just* Ryno picking for Harden, and three guys spread out.

    DaDakota....when you say Ryno can't roll ... MDA says, so what. This is why:

    Whenever Ryno is involved in the PnR, there is nearly always a 5 picking as well. Yes...there are two pickers. It is a 3-man game out front. Anderson is a *serious* weapon on these plays by popping, fading and flaring while the 5 rolls. This is also why the lane is soooo wide open and the 5 is getting a lot of easy layups/slams, and Harden is getting many more easy drives than last year. It's because this is a 3-man PnR.

    These 3-man PnR plays we run with Harden, Anderson and a 5 are (to date):
    • Horns Pick for the Picker
    • Horns Double Pick
    • Horns Post Switch
    • PnR, Screen Blue, Pop Out
    • 21 Dribble Double Drag
    And this doesn't even count both the Thru-Series and 5 Out Motion action we sometimes run like GSW does, that are not really part of the PnR category.

    Trust me: Anderson is a big threat in MDAs offense...especially our 3-man, Horns plays...and key to why the lane is so open for Harden, Clint and Montrezl.
     
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    I've posted this in the Anderson thread...so might as well post it here, since people keep implying Ryno is "duplicitous" [sic] to DMo.

    Here is Grant Hill explaining Ryno's role in the 3-man PnR

    Dribble Double Drag PnR, plus a second play, our Drag Break with nifty pass by Harden
    • Here we are doing our Horns 3-man action out high -- Harden with the 4 and 5. See previous post for list of other sets designed for Anderson with Harden and a 5.
    • Instead of a simple PnR with only Capela and Harden in the middle...this play (which we do a lot) has two pickers for Harden. Notice how open Anderson is too
    • Grant Hill is talking about how this action causes defense to take a different angle to Harden
     
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  10. DaDakota

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    I know all of that already HP, but that is only a small portion of it, what will kill us with Ryno is that he is a one trick pony, he needs to roll to the hole some time, or he will be easy to guard.

    And yes, I do realize folks have to stay attached to him giving Harden room, I think you can have both, a guy who requires that and rolls to the basket too.

    DD
     
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    What exactly do you know. Explain it?

    It is *not* a small portion. The 3-man game with the 5 rolling is a big part of our offense. The offense is meant to get the 5 and Harden in the lane...not so much Anderson. And it works.

    Here's a good example of the Horns 3-man Pick for the Picker action.
    • Capela's pick on Melo prior to rolling frees up Anderson.
    • Porzingas checks Capela well
    • Anderson can flare or roll. He does both, then pops back out for a wide open 3.

     
  12. Codman

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    My only Ears tonight are somber.

    Guys, just so you know, our Brazilian Big Fella is going through quite a lot personally. I'm not saying to give him a break or what not, but most of us would have difficulty with parts of our job if we were going through the same thing. The life away from the court is more important than what goes on in front of the lights.
     
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  13. Codman

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    I, too, was mainly referring to chemistry on the court. The assumptions about Morey's inability (in this case anyway) to create a cohesive team that"fits" together are, imo, unfounded. I'm not his biggest fan, but I think it's fairly obvious that this team was constructed with on-court chemistry in mind, along with players that fit in with MDA's plans.

    Perhaps the expectations of some "Morey-created" team are too abstract, or too high based on a lack of specificity.

    But, again, this really isn't about chemistry.

    Behind all of this back-and-forth about something that's highly theory-based is the popular sentiment that DMo needs to return or that DMo is a small part of the answer to our infinite problems. That's the hope here, for so many Rockets fans. :) Let's just call it what it is lol.
     
  14. xiki

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    To me, we're like early in a baseball season where a team doesn't need all its starting pitchers. But after the first few weeks they do. DMo might not move a needle much today but he will be necessary 'soon enough'.

    Or - - the replacement palyer in a reasonable-to-believe SnT.
     
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    Is it Christmas yet?
     
  16. DaDakota

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    This is true, hope he gets all of that right.

    DD
     
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    Any indication of if these issues are temporary or if they might effect him all year long ?

    Dmo might be more important in the latter case , but I'm all for giving harrel a shot to earn some minutes too . He looks athletic and was somewhat disciplined on D last night .
     
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    Harrel definetly earned a chance to get some more minuets.
     
  20. JJWhat?

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    He seemed fine to me, laughing at Dekker's misfortunes on the fastbreak
     

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