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[TV] Westworld on HBO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tehG l i d e, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. JayZ750

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    Is this a good show?
    Where would you rate it relative to great shows of the last few years??
    Thanks!
     
  2. larsv8

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    Its excellent, highly recommend.
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    It's okay. Quality production, but I find myself disappointed as a huge fan of the concepts and the actors. Still a must watch for me.
     
  4. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Thought about the bird and animals some more. As it seemed significant to me. Here is a deep end of the pool theory I am working on: If the bird was reincarnated so to speak, as noted by a poster before, and Arnold's death was no accident ( according to Ford ), meaning that Arnold died intentionally ( for whatever reason ). Then one possible outcome is that Arnold believed he could be reincarnated. That either makes him transcendent like Johnny Depp ( something Ford would want ) where he is now uploaded into the park or he becomes part-host and God. Or better yet, becomes part of the host world discretely which is more in line with Arnold's character as I understand him. Ford has talked a lot about not dying being the bigger picture. Beating death. So it begs the question why would Arnold die on purpose? What would it prove to the hosts, or what would it prove to himself? I would think that Arnold died to prove that he could live forever as a host/human. And that he saw this as plausible so long as hosts have a consciousness. And here is the kicker, the way off the deep end proposal. If it worked, And Arnold lives on, I believe Arnold is now chestnut the horse. It's not a sexy ending, and there no real evidence for it yet, but it is crazy enough to be plausible at this point. There are a lot of things that line up here. Maeve is crossing worlds. The Indians believe that crossing worlds is good. Indians believe in reincarnation. The Board, Ford, Arnold, MIB, hosts, would all have an interest in it. They seem to know something we don't. It gives Ford a reason to be diving into this deeper. It gives the man in black a purpose because he knows Arnold died for a reason and he wants to know more. It allows the Nolan's to keep this open ended too as a balance between faith, science, technology, and evolution, yet gives them some closure to end it too. Yep. Crazy. There u go.

    Important is what does this mean for the hosts. As the entire story is told from their perspective. I'm not sure yet. Working on that. But it seems like they are seeking consciousness, almost the opposite of the humans, to be able to die.

    Edit, I changed my mind on the hosts. The host don't want to die ever again either. The crazy host in episode one pouring the milk said as much before he bit it. So they are all seeking immortalilty together, hosts, humans, board.
     
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  5. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Also, one of the first images of the show is the milk and blood mixed. So I think this further symbolizes the conversion of the hosts and the humans, the mixture of life and death, but more importantly, what Arnold wants, what Ford wants, what the Board wants, and what the hosts ultimately will want, all for different reasons. I am going to paying more attention to blood and milk as we go on. And totally paying attention to the animals.
     
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  6. superfob

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    Still liking the show, but Maeve's storyline isn't very plausible.

    The scene with her walking through the entire building was ridiculous.

    First, it's unlikely such a large corp centered around secrecy would give a low level worker access to all of the building.

    Second, am I to believe that security or any one does not notice them wandering the halls?

    Third, how likely is it the same two clean-up crew gets assigned to fix her body.
    The idea she purposely gets herself killed to meet up with them.
     
  7. Newlin

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    Did Yul Brynner make a cameo in this episode?
     
  8. Castor27

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    Yes he did , or at least they made a prop to look like him. I caught it and thought that was a cool touch. I enjoyed the latest episode. I am finding that I am needing to lessen my theorizing of what's actually happening. It is so easy to say well what if this guy is a robot or what if this person is really this, and many of my ideas would be cool stories and I don't want to be disappointed if the payoffs are less than what I expect.
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    Yul Brynner died of lung cancer a long, long time ago.

    When I was a child he was held out an antismoking cautionary tale. He was apparently an extremely heavy smoker.

    EDIT;

    Here's the commercial he cut when he found out he was dying:

     
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  10. Svpernaut

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    It is a fantastic show thus far. Other shows I'd put above it in recent years are Mr. Robot, The Leftovers, Game of Thrones, Better Call Saul, Black Mirror, Orphan Black, Peaky Blinders, and Halt and Catch Fire. Westworld along with Stranger Things are the new shows with the most promise.

    It has the potential to be just as great as the best HBO dramas, because it is a unique story, let's just hope they keep up with the execution - so far so good. The acting is fantastic in the series, and up there with the other HBO dramas already.
     
  11. Newlin

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    Yes, I know he died. But, if you watch the last episode of Westworld, you will recognize the character he played in the original movie, standing in the background.
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    In my mind, when you say "him" it means the actual person. I guess "a mannequin of his character" falls under the definition of "him" from your viewpoint?
     
  13. Newlin

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    Yes. I thought it was a nice little nod to Brynner and the original film.
     
  14. Supermac34

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    Just got back from Vegas this weekend and sat right next to Jimmi Simpson (William) while we were slumming some $10 Blackjack in the Aria to pass time before dinner reservations. He was a really nice guy...very outgoing. He only played with us for about 30 minutes before he had to go meet a friend. Just then, Charlie Day from Always Sunny in Philadelphia walked up and they left for dinner. (apparently good buds according to IMDB from Always Sunny...and roomates).

    We didn't talk much about the show, but we all mentioned that we really liked it. He liked to give nicknames to everybody at the table and was extremely friendly (maybe a little coked up???), couldn't tell.

    Anyways, he kept making jokes about his "ex" when he would lose a hand. Apparently he was married to that chick from Heavenly Creatures.

    We did think it was funny that he was playing some $10 blackjack, then basically tipped the dealer $60 when he left (the rest of his chips).
     
  15. Svpernaut

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    Last night's episode was fantastic... with the exception of not getting an update from William and Dolores.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    kind of slow but has potential to build into something interesting.
     
  17. Svpernaut

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    The Leftovers is the best comparison for me, because it is such a unique narrative and has fantastic casting.
     
  18. Ubiquitin

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    Welp, I've stopped watching after the 3rd episode. Too much thinking for a simple man like myself.
     
  19. Ottomaton

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    IMO, Anthony Hopkins' little monologues are all little individual jewels.

    If I'm getting little bored or distracted, he'll appear, and ave a conversation and I'm back into it. The one from the previous episode where a was menacing to the suit over lunch was the high point of the series for for me.
     
  20. Svpernaut

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    You might like this, then.

     
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