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This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Snow Villiers, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Wolverrines

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    YES LET US ALL BE HAPPY WITH MEDIOCRE
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    If Bridgewater had played, the Texans might have won. Give the Texans back Watt and the O linemen they were missing and force the Vikings to use Bridgewater instead of Bradford and I would absolutely bet on the Texans in that one.

    As to the Patriots....I mean, that just goes back to what I was saying before, if the Texans aren't undefeated and unquestionably elite then the awful fair weather and bandwagon fans flip out. It's fairly pathetic.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah yes, there's only 2 options, undefeated and unquestionably elite or "mediocre".

    Thank you for your contribution.
     
  4. Nook

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    They are going nowhere.... again... back on their uninspiring treadmill of mediocrity.

    What am I advocating? A fan base that doesn't just feel lucky to have a franchise. A fan base that voices their displeasure with wallowing in mediocrity and is insulted that the owner and GM attempts to pass their half assed efforts are worthy of paise.

    The city holds the Rockets and Astros accountable and even the Oilers... but the Texans they get a pass, always have... but someday enough of the fans will get sick of Uncle Bob and Smith shoving it up their ass, and pressure will be put on McNair to actually win.
     
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  5. Nook

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    If Bridgewater played, the Texans may have won? Nope.

    As for the Patriots, you were quite confident the Texans would win... and the Texans were dominated by the Pat's third string QB with short practice; it wasn't remotely competitive.

    The Texans can (usually do) beat bad teams and then lose to good teams. Does anyone really believe the Texans have any shot of winning a playoff game?

    They are mediocre, with a bad QB but that is enough for McNair as we will undoubtedly hear about how they held off the Colts and Jaguars to win a meaningless division.
     
  6. Wolverrines

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    What I have gathered is we should be happy with what the Texans are and if we aren't we are fair weather and bandwagon fan because we are not happy. But here's the thing fairweather fans and bandwagoners are what they are because they don't care for the team. They are just here because it is cool thing to do and walk away when it isn't. They have no investment in the team. They can't name players that are not starters **** I doubt they could name an assistant coach or starting OL player. Again what I have said is is it to much to ask that the Texans atleast compete against good teams and not get blown out?

    Who said there are two options? I know I didn't. That's one mighty leap to make. Just not happy with Texans not improving and continuing to be average.
     
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  7. Wolverrines

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    Anyone remember Bob McNair talking about how Owners and GMs were praise him for almost being a good team for almost beating the Ravens? Or something like that.
     
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    Sounds like you should move on and stop pretending to be a Texans fan. There's always room on the Cowboys or Patriots bandwagon for people like you.
     
  9. J.R.

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    :D

    In the wake of the Texans' 34-28 overtime loss to the Baltimore Ravens, McNair said that he received an uncommon outpouring of support at the NFL owners' meetings in Fort Worth on Tuesday.

    "I was just sort of overwhelmed by the comments that our competitors had to say about our team, because it had never happened before like this," McNair said. "They were all, frankly, pulling for us after the way we came back... They just said it was just one of the most impressive comebacks they had ever seen. What was interesting was they didn't talk about the overtime. They didn't talk about the interception. All they could talk about was the comeback. They could just not believe it.

    "The level of respect that they have for our team and how close they think we are to really being not just a good team but an outstanding team, it was nice to hear your peer group say that about you. So I just wanted the team to know how close not only we think they are, but how close our competitors think they are, to being an outstanding team."

    "I think what it does, it's sort of an affirmation that we're on the right track," McNair said. "Clearly, we have to do better, because what we've done wasn't good enough. But (it affirms) that we're on the right track, and I've felt that way all along.

    "We'll review everything at the end of the year, and will we make some changes? I'm sure we will make some -- we'll see some things that need to be improved. But we're very, very close to having the kind of team I think that we can all be proud of, and we just have to keep working hard and push it over the top. I think we're close."

    The Texans have set an NFL record this season by becoming the first team in league history to come back from a deficit of at least 14 points to take the lead or tie, only to end up losing, in four games.

    Each of those four losses has come during a 1-6 skid that has dropped the Texans' record from 4-2 to 5-8, which has all but ended their hopes of making the playoffs for the first time in team history.

    "It's a killer," McNair said. "I hurt more than anybody. To see that we're so close to being where we want to be and then to be denied is just very disheartening. But you know, it's like life. I mean, does everything work out in your life? I doubt it. You don't quit, do you? No, you just suck it up and go on. And that's what you have to do. That's one reason this game is such a great reflection of life. It's what we face every day. And our fans, I feel their frustration and what have you. I get letters. I write them all back and tell them, 'Hey, I'm just as frustrated as you are.' But nobody wants to win more than I do, or Gary. I'll tell you that."

    One of McNair's primary messages to the players on Thursday was the same thing that Kubiak and his staff have been reinforcing: To step up and make plays in crunch time. Kubiak said that McNair told him before practice that he would like to address the team.

    "I think it's good," Kubiak said. "Our guys know how much he cares about them. He's out here at practice all the time. He's in the locker room. He's very active from that standpoint with this football team and he doesn't say a whole lot, and when he does speak, people pay attention."​
     
  10. Nick

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    Who says they're getting a pass? Like I said, if you're simply looking at attendance, it's not hard for a city of 6+ million people to consistently sell out 8 home games. Smaller/more mediocre teams like Detroit, Buffalo, Cleveland, Cincy have all packed their stadiums as well, especially when the team was anything but god-awful. Figured you'd be smart enough to figure that out.

    Secondly, you're claiming they're not attempting to actually make needed moves to get better. You're confusing moves not working out with a lack of effort. Again, figured you'd be smarter than that. Funny to see you be pragmatic with one franchise and totally scorned with another.
     
  11. Nick

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    Let's all simply forget that this version of the Texans did go on to have a 22-10 record the following 2 years.
     
  12. houstonstime

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    Texans were not dominated by a 3rd string QB... He was given the ball on our 15 yard line by a fumbe TWICE. That was 14 immediate points not caused by Osweiler. Hard to ask a new QB to come back from that especially away against the Pats and Hoodie... The game was ugly, but all of our losses had some bad defense, and some costly fumbles that were not on Brock too. They were just all around bad games.
     
  13. houstonstime

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    I heard today that Schaub's first 8 games:

    3-5, 5 TDs, 7 INTs, 12 sacks, 7 fumbles (3 lost)...
    If that was Brock right now, there would be more than just hate messages on a forum. Did you all expect us to go straight to the super bowl with a new QB, 7 new offensive starters, and not to mention no JJ Watt? It is going to take a little time guys, in the mean time, I think we should be glad we are at 5-3, dominating the division, and our only losses have been super bowl contenders.
     
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    Shaub ended up with an 87 QBRating and 7.75 y/a. The knock was he only had a 1-1 TD to INT ratio.

    Can Brock get to an 87 qbrating?

    3 of his first 4 games schaub posted a 100+ Qbrating
     
  16. Nick

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    I think everybody would universally acknowledge that Schaub played in a very QB-friendly system. The same system that Brock played well in last year.

    But, everybody also criticized that system for its limitations on what the QB could or couldn't do at the LOS, and universally praised a system that provided possible diversity and allowed QB's to make adjustments based on what the defense was showing.

    Obviously there is no perfect system that makes everybody happy... unless the team is winning games.
     
  17. Nook

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    You don't get the bigger picture. The Texans get very little heat or pressure in the city of Houston. Of course they sell every year. Putting "butts in the seats" is used to mean general support of the franchise.

    Making half assed, poorly thought out moves isn't effort.
     
  18. Nook

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    Sounds like you are satisfied with just having an NFL team in town.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Sounds like I'm satisfied with having the AFC South champion in town 4 of the last 6 years.....

    A team that keeps working to improve itself year after year.

    It sounds like you are a fair weather/bandwagon fan that needs to move on to another team temporarily.
     
  20. Nimo

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    You mean the city that cheered when Schaub got hurt? Burnt his jerseys and showed up at his house? The city that started a gofundme to buy-out Osweiller's contract? The city that left the game early on Sunday night vs the Colts? You know the one that boo'ed when Watt was drafted? When Mario was drafted?

    You're right. Let us all keep expressing our dissatisfaction on message boards. That will show 'em.:rolleyes:

    The bigger picture is this: this is the NFL most cities are going to show up to the games. If not for fan-dom for the team, their is fan-dom for the opposing team and just entertaining business partners.
     

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