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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Prosecuting someone who is legitimately guilty of multiple crimes against the state isn't similar to North Korea, you really make yourself look bad overall when you say ridiculous things like that. There's simply no defending what Hillary did and saying that if in office you'd push for the DOJ to do their job and prosecute her isn't wrong in any way......in fact, what's wrong is Hillary being able to use her political connections to influence the DOJ and FBI to NOT do their job so that she can avoid indictment. We've seen just how corrupt government agencies are under the Obama regime when it comes to the IRS targeting conservative groups so it's no shock that other government agencies would cover for Hillary and that's exactly what they did.
     
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    On the contrary, what looks bad is operating and speaking in a way that suggests Hillary Clinton has been tried and found guilty of a crime in a court of law.

    Let's review.



    This is someone suggesting that he would put his opponent in prison if he had the power. That is the type of thing that happen in 3rd world countries run by thugs, tyrants, and sociopaths.

    "It's only a kangaroo court if they are innocent" is witch hunt mentality. How many courts do you think find people innocent when their credibility is predicated on them finding the defendant guilty?

    This is far closer to North Korea than it is to an American way of thinking about criminal justice.
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I think the problem here is that she never had to face a court of law due to her political connections....if she did, then she'd likely end up in jail or at bare minimum face probation while never being allowed to hold office again. Suggesting that you'd work to correct a miscarriage of justice isn't really a "witch hunt"

    I know that you support the criminal justice system being subverted due to the political power of the current regime, but that doesn't make it right.

    Talking about Hillary deserving prison is no different than someone suggesting that OJ did it. Of course he did, but he was able to use his celebrity and the "us vs them" foolishness of certain demographics to avoid jail.....Hillary managed to avoid even the indictment.
     
  4. tallanvor

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    why dont you tell me what principal that is? we have always banned individuals we deem a threat to our citizens. also the notion is just dumb. so what we have to let in Muslims even though every where they go rape and child molestation follow? what principal is this? That being said banning people by religion is not implementable.

    again not a precedent. we always ban groups that represent a threat to us (especially when we are at war with them).

    This is ridiculous for the same reasons i alrdy said. Russia was not waiting on the green light from trump to hack hillary. They would do it no matter what cause they can cause shes dumb as rocks.

    thats such a lie. He didn't say he would ignore the courts and lock her up.


    Suggesting what? hillary be tried found crimes the FBI alrdy said she committed? oh god what have i done.


    a weapon of mass destruction is a threat. that's the whole ****ing point. if you invade us we will blow up your cities. that's the threat.

    I hate trump, but these points are so dumb and dishonest that i find myself having to defend him.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    When you've made your way around the list of explanations and landed on "conspiracy theory", it's time to stop and re-evaluate.

    But that's not what was suggested. You're trying awfully hard to polish a turd here. Points for effort, but the juice here is not worth the squeeze on your part.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    It's really not a conspiracy theory, it's just how corrupt politics works. People were calling the IRS scandal a "conspiracy theory" too, it wasn't, it was just another example of corrupt politics and the Obama/Clinton regime is about the gold standard for that.....not that Trump would be any better.

    When the FBI director spells out how there is evidence that Hillary is guilty of crimes and then doesn't suggest indictment, there's a reason for it. There was a ton of pressure from the DOJ to make the whole thing go away and in the end they almost got their wish.
     
  7. Granville

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    Exhibit A, your Honor

    Like I said before, you're a terrible attorney and your weak on the stand attempt to provoke me to anger didn't work. There was absolutely nothing anyone said for you to use a slur aimed at the mentally impaired to degrade others who support a candidate other than your own.

    I'm not sure how you think it's amusing to use people born with severe challenges that often leave them looking and acting odd as compared to the norm as an instrument to insult typically developed people,

    I have 2 kids. The oldest one is 9 years older than the youngest one. The oldest is typically developed. I ran around unaware of the life that began with the second child. I had no idea what came with the birth of my autistic son. I was a self absorbed dumbass Iike you before my youngest son came along .
    I wanted to continue to fit in with guys like you. Men want to talk about what their kids can do, not what they can't do. I had to learn to appreciate the things my son can do and find an audience where I could share his victories My wife and I started our group. Almost every new family who joins our group expresses the hurt they feel from people who Use that term and or stare at their kid. We always tell them that they are going to have to adjust because they are going to run in to a lot of people who care and want to help and also people just like you.

    With your blatant disregard for the truth behind your motive for using that word you won't be hard for others to spot and move on. For that I am grateful.
     
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    You need to goto sleep reciting how shitty of a human being you are on a regular basis.
     
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    Hillary is a ****ing idiot, we all know what Trump is, but for the type of crap that Hillary has done with respect to Bernie and now the Brazil leaked question I have to question whether she does in fact suffer from dementia. I have never been able to tolerate cheaters, especially the ones that do so for the sake of cheating. There was no benefit to Donna Brazil doing such a thing, and it shows that the dems aren't that much better than the republicans.
     
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  10. Bobbythegreat

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    If ANYONE else was running against Hillary, she'd lose easily. Trump is seriously her best friend and best political donor ever. He tried to buy her way into the white house when she ran against Obama and it failed. He then took a different approach and finally managed to get her in.
     
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    Except a president doesn't have the power to put people in jail. This is exactly why we have the type of government we have. If a president had absolute power, everyone of them would abuse it in some form. So I am not following your logic on this. What do you think Hillary would do to those 'deplorables' ? Hillary has frequently insulted Americans. Where is your outrage for this?
     
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    You hate Trump but you defend him endlessly, that seems to be a common theme around here.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    "It's just awfully good that someone with Donald's temperament is not in charge of the law in our country".

    There is no one that is "in charge of the law" in our country. It's a hypothetical.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    Well that's not really true. The DOJ and the attorney general are kind of "in charge of the law" and the president puts the attorney general in office. In some sense, the president has great control over when and if justice is served. They have the power to essentially grant immunity from the law and that's what they did for Hillary thus far.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    On her first day in office Hillary should ask for Comey's resignation or fire him. Unless of course Obama doesn't beat her to it.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    that would be rly hard to pull off. Especially for just doing his job. Nobody to blame here but Clinton and Huma. They are the ones who didn't hand everything over. bad timing is on them.
     
  17. Rashmon

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    Probably wouldn't be hard to pin a Hatch Act violation on him.
     
  18. tallanvor

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    yea it would. Finding evidence that someone you investigated did not turn over when they swore they did is pretty obvious grounds for reopening a trial.
     
  19. Rashmon

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    You don't seem to understand how the Hatch Act works. In this instance, it has nothing to do with the validity of the information discovered, but rather the timing of the release to adversely affect the outcome of an election. It is DOJ policy to sit on that type of stuff this close to an election. Comey disregarded policy.

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    FBI director James Comey may be under investigation for Hatch Act violation
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    So they should prosecute him AND prosecute Hillary. I don't have a problem with that. Hell they can share a cell for all I care.
     

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