Moss and Owens combined to play 437 NFL games; 113 of those were with Young, Brady or Romo; or, roughly 25%. The other 324 featured Daunte Culpepper; a 36-year old Randall Cunningham; Matt Cassel; Kerry Collins; Jeff George; Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter, Todd Bauman, Gus Frerotte, Spergon Wynn, Marques Tuiasopo, Tavrais Jackson, unretired Brett Favre, Jeff Garcia, Steve Stentstrom, Jim Druckenmiller, Tim Rattay, both Detmer brothers, Trent Edwards, Mike McMahon, Elvis Grbac, Ryan Fitzpatrick... to name just a few. Owens did play 24 games with Donovan McNabb - but I'm not sure you could argue he was better than Schaub. This idea that, Man! If Andre Johnson had only played with a good QB... HE DID! And reaped the benefits. During Schaub's tenure, Johnson's 16-game average was 105/1,517/8. Those were league-leading numbers. And, keep in mind, he was targeted 779 times, more than any other receiver in football. He was force-fed passes - because that's what QBs do when their best WR is better than they are. Brady, Young - they don't have to lean on great WRs; Schaub did. I would guess, with a better QB than Schaub, Johnson's numbers would have probably gone down.
there was a rockets game soon after the finnegan beatdown, the announcers said andre is in the house...the entire arena gave a standing ovation, except the bottom bowl section they were too busy not showing up.
Saw this comment on Football Outsiders: For easily six years from 2008 to 2013, Andre Johnson was definitely a top-five receiver. From 2006 to 2013, Johnson was in the top six receivers for number of catches every single year except 2007 and 2011, both of which saw him miss at least 7 games through injury. From 2008 to 2013, he was in the top seven for receiving yards every single year except 2011, again because he missed half the season injured. That includes 2010, when he only played 13 games but still finished sixth in both receptions and yards. Only Jerry Rice has more seasons with over 1500 receiving yards. (Rice has 4 plus a season at 1499, Johnson and Marvin Harrison have 3, Antonio Brown and Julio Jones may join them on three this year.) The same is true if we lower the bar to 1400. (Rice has six, then there's a four-way tie at four.) This was while catching passes from Matt Schaub, David Carr, Sage Rosenfels, and T.J. Yates. Kevin Walter and Owen Daniels weren't exactly drawing coverage away from him, and the running game featured the likes of Ron Dayne and Steve Slaton as their leading rushers. (Arian Foster didn't really arrive as a featured back until 2010.) For two of those years (2008-09) he was arguably the best receiver in the league -- a league which included Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, and Reggie Wayne.
Both Terrell and Moss had arguably their best season(s) in their 30's with Romo and Brady throwing to them. Your "guess" that Johnson would do worse with a better QB is silly, and a weak attempt to either prop Schaub and/or discredit Andre.
Since Andre Johnson didn't do better with better QB's, you have to question if he would have with other "better QB's". I mean, for one, Schaub was one of the better QB's in the league for a decent stretch and also "better QB's" probably don't keep targeting Andre Johnson when he's not playing well. With the Texans, they kept forcing the ball to him anyway.
You said Dre was already washed up his last season HOU. Now you wanna discredit him the season AFTER he was already washed up. He didn't even make thru the following season (this season) without retiring. You sound like Kobe-Fan discrediting LeBron because he couldn't win with 35 y/o Shaq. Do better
LOL there's no comparison to a Kobe fan talking about Lebron because I'm not hyping one over the other, I'm just talking objectively about one player......and you are being a Lin fangirl about it. Andre Johnson was a really great WR, but he faded down the stretch before he pushed himself into the top tier of WR's in NFL history. Doesn't mean that he wasn't a really great WR so you don't have to get butt hurt about it.
Everybody here knows you've been discrediting Dre ever since his hold-out. You've done the same with Hopkins since his hold-out. We get it.... when a player holds-out, you develop a great disdain for them. We get it.
LOL, you call it "discrediting" yet it was always just an accurate representation of the player. At the time you thought it was blasphemous that BOB told him that he was set for a WR3 role.....yet that's realistically what he had left. I said so at the time and you went nuts. When it comes to Nuk, I just said that he was foolish to hold out because it wouldn't work....it didn't.....and you took that as "running him down". At some point, I do hope you get tired of being wrong and you come around.
