When DMo did finally re-enter the rotation he just didn't play that well at all. Had he at least shown a few more flashes of his old self I think the league's attitude would be different. Under that scenario it's just too risky for teams so the situation is in a pure show me stage.
The multi-year deal I was responding to was cited by supposed insiders here. I don't remember whom exactly. They seemed to know about as much as you did so I was responding to the idea that he's holding out for a multi-year deal at about 8 mil per annum. I don't act like an insider and I've said several times that when/if I do get info from being friends with Daryl I don't share it. Someone suggested a forum for insiders only and included me. I replied that I am NOT an "insider" because I can't post what I hear. Being a lifelong Rockets fan (over 40 years) I was very excited to share the fact that I'd become friends with Daryl, just as any other fan would. It's cool as hell being friends with him. But I have said more times than I can count that I don't claim insider status because I don't post about things I know from knowing Daryl. You keep trying to mock me for being a fake insider when I keep saying I'm not an insider. I do get information, but I don't share it. Ergo, not an insider. I have never pretended otherwise. You hide behind your moniker but my true identity is known to anyone that bothers to check for it. I'm out. I outed myself. You aren't and haven't. It's you that plays the role of the "insider" without anything to back it up. Don't project your junk on me. You also LOVE to cite me saying that Jones projected to be a great player and that Daryl told me that (because it wasn't a secret and I was able to share) with the logic being I was somehow tricked into being a vehicle for false info he wanted out there. Maybe you don't have friends in your life so maybe you don't know what that's like. It wouldn't surprise me. But Daryl has given me some pretty amazing stuff--stuff that was in no way a positive take on a player--that I haven't shared because before I am an "insider" (I'm not because I don't betray that trust) and before I'm a clutchfans devotee, I am a Rockets fan. And being a true fan (are you? honest question) means I don't want any info out there that could harm the team. heypartner is a friend of mine IRL and has told me many times he hate because they put out info that could be detrimental to the team. I would NEVER do that. If I did I could easily prove Daryl is not taking me for a ride. Because he has shared with me negative takes on players and other personnel that are not flattering and would not help (and would harm) if they got out. My friend is not using me to spread false, positive info. That is frigging ridiculous and the only thing I can take away from that attitude is that you don't have the experience of having friends and sharing trust. I agree that Morey wouldn't want to have lunch with you but not for the reasons you said. Morey's as nice a guy as I've ever met but you are a real boor. And a bore to boot. Of course he wouldn't want to have lunch with you. I doubt any Rockets fan would be super excited about sitting across a table from you. I will tell you this: You have posted inaccurate stuff here (stuff that is WAY off) as if it were inside scoop. I can't say what that stuff is because it would betray my trust with DM. People here will have to decide for themselves whether they trust me or not. I don't care much either way. I could prove it quite easily if I didn't care about my friendship and the trust I won't violate. Then again, you haven't proven you know anything or have any connections to anyone. So my word is at least as good as yours and considering I've been part of this site since its founding (well before we had to register in '99) I'd say my word is better than yours. Get one thing right and maybe you'll have some cred. As of now you have none and are a running joke on the board. That's as it should be. I think I covered anything worth covering in your post. When D-Mo gets his huge contract and we trade him for Rubio (LOL) maybe there's more to talk about. So far you haven't gotten a single thing right as far as I know. And you wanted to charge people for your info! SMDH and LOL. Good luck with that.
......third best player on the team........ You wanted answers. I gave you the answers. Now go ahead and answer my question. What reason do the Rockets have to offer DMo a one-year contract?
Nice post Batman. I for one like insiders, but I'd never want you to post something Daryl said and appreciate that you don't. Team first. I do love what Doc and Cod bring to the board, it makes it fun. As far as the other insiders... Yeah.
You've failed to answer a number of questions I've posed to folks like you (the ones taking the attitude that D-Mo not just should but WILL get mad money before stepping back on the court) so I don't feel obligated to answer but I will. If they offered a one-year (and I'm not saying they are - I don't know) it would be because they, like the other 29 teams, don't know if he will even be able to play in the NBA until he shows them otherwise. I agree it would be better to offer a longer deal at a bargain price (I would insist on a team option in the second year because maybe he's a bust) but that's not what I'm responding to. I'm responding to the matter we all know is at hand, because the Rockets have apparently made their offer and it's up to D-Mo/BJ now. It doesn't matter why the Rockets would do a thing or not. They've already done what they're going to do. It's on D-Mo so that's the perspective I'm posting from. The Rockets have made him an offer and it's not good enough for him, after he failed a physical rescinding a trade, and he hasn't shown us he's a rotation player in the interim. IIRC he's had about four good months, right in a row, and otherwise has always been a guy we were set on keeping for potential. When someone has back surgery and doesn't subsequently prove he can play in the NBA, he does not merit a better deal than the Rockets are offering, no matter what it is. He needs the Rockets more than they need him. Because the ONLY way he gets his price up is by proving he can play in the NBA and he's only allowed to do that with our team or according to a trade that our team signs off on. The Rockets have all the power here. This is one of the reasons you come off looking so silly here. Until D-Mo proves otherwise, on a NBA court, in a Rockets uni or the uni of a team we approve trading him to, we'll just play Dekker. No big deal. Neither D-Mo nor BJ is doing anything to improve their situation. And they have no "hand." At this point he has to play to get paid and he can't get paid or play but that our front office agrees to it. This is purely a personal opinion as I've said in this thread a few times: The Rockets have 100% of the power in this situation.
Why did you quote me? Surely you're not calling me a "Dmo nut-hugger" or saying I'm "going after popular posters to get a little burn?" I'm obviously skeptical of D-Mo until he proves himself and I'm not aware I've gone after any posters here other than the one that posts as jopat, basketballholic, and bobbythegreat. Was this meant for someone else? If not, "Dude what the hell are you talking about."
I should say too that heypartner exposed my logic about the D-Mo situation pretty well a lot of pages back, maybe in the other thread. He's just plain smarter about basketball than I am and he poked a lot of holes in my position that were really valid ones. I should have said so then. I say that to say I'm not stuck on a position and I'm not above being proven wrong by people that are smarter than I am. bobbyholic just isn't the guy that can do that. Everything I've posted about the D-Mo situation has been speculation, trying to figure out what the hell his logic/his agent's logic is. Because, though heypee debunked some of the stuff I was saying regarding restricted free agency, I can not for the life of me figure out what the hold up is. I can not for the life of me figure out a single reason D-Mo would avoid signing with us at whatever deal we're offering except that he doesn't have faith in his ability to get his value up when he does. I don't want that to be true. I want him to sign with us and be great and re-sign with us. If he can still play. If there is another reason for him not signing, I'd love to hear it. And "he wants more money" doesn't count. He knows what his options are. So what's the hold up? Unless it's what I fear -- that he does not have faith in his ability to bump his value by playing.
Does nobody else think this is a cash grab? I mean the Rockets did trade him last year, I assume they know more about his back than we do.
Here's the answer. They have NO REASON to offer him a one year contract. They can offer him 2-5 years and control him with non guaranteed or partially guaranteed years. Which is what will likely happen if he stays and is not signed and traded, which is still the most likely scenario. At least one of Capela, Anderson, DMo will not be on this roster after the trade deadline. And it's very possible that two or even all three of them will be gone.
Always nice seeing someone call you out in a positive way on the bbs, especially someone smarter than me, IRL. I should point out, and BJ knows this, that I don't "hate insiders" here at cfnet. I "hate" their primary sources. So, unless they are employees of the Rockets, or contractors (e.g. TC Security company employee), or actual professionals hired by the Rockets (lawyers, doctors, physical therapists, scouts, travel agents), I forgive them for wanting to share. But if they are business associates of the Rockets, in that case, if they told me in private something juicy about behind-closed-door player mgmt stuff, trade maneuvering, scouting, free agent interest or physical status of a player (anything that would make big news in press) I would immediately do my best to report them to Morey (or anyone who would listen) that we have a mole. Maybe Morey actually leaked it to them ... maybe not. But instead of passing it on here at cfnet for fun and harmless consumption, I'd pass it on the Morey to do with it what he wants, because I'd have no idea who else the lose-lips source is telling. That said, maybe I used to not like anyone (even secondary sources like reporters or cfnet members) who would pass on that insider info, but I'm over that. Once it's out, I'm not going to blame anyone for continuing to pass it along, especially reporters who make a living off of having news. But if you are paid by the Rockets and you break a business trust with them, don't tell me who you are, because I mean business, when you disrespect the Rockets business. phew...glad I'm a nothing fan, nowhere close to insiders. I wouldn't want to test my convictions on this topic.
You're right, heypee. I misstated and thought about editing to change "hates insiders" to "doesn't really dig on insiders sharing info" or more to the point "hates staff leaks." You're right. You never gave me the impression you actually hated or even disliked insiders; you reserved your vitriol for staff leaks which were betrayals. I think you were even friends with a couple of the old-timers that did us so many solids, like popeye. I miss popeye. And his French version, oilepere, too.
BMJ - I am almost 100% in your corner here, I think he is making a mistake by not signing for a year - the only thing I can think of and this is pure speculation is that he might still be butt hurt about the trade, and really doesn't want to be here. DD
This really makes me wonder what exactly DMo hopes to accomplish by holding out. Just hoping to get more money? Because I don't see it going up significantly. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Popeye and Doc were totally disrespected and constantly dumped on when they participated here. That's the reason why Doc quit posting altogether.
Oh how I wish the Rockets would move on from Dmo. They don't need him and apparently they don't want him.
