It took an arcane procedural tactic, reconciliation, to pass pass through OC after eight or so months of hand wringing through diff committees. That majority looks good in hindsight, tho. Honestly tho, after that gigantic waste of time, which republicans felt was akin to Pbama cramming it down their throats, it would've been better to cram the whole ******* thing down their throats (single payer) and let the pieces fall where they may.
I don't necessarily agree with this. Individual claims provisions and actual pricing on premiums can make it so, but the basic concept is pretty worthwhile, especially if you're young enough at the first incident to have not paid a lot of premiums.
You're wasting your own time not admitting st the very least failed to make your point in the manner you're now claiming to make That said my point stands Obamacare was crap that is on the verge of blowing up before Obama leaves office. You would be better off sticking to what you actually wrote
No, I'm not on Obamacare. I'm one of the millions of people who fall through the cracks. Blame the Republicans or the state of Texas if you want to. But the bottom line is that when Obamacare started, my basic low cost insurance went away. Very frustrating.
You do know that it was supported by house and senate rebs. The bill was introduced on October 29, 2009 and passed on November 7, during the 1st Session of the 111th Congress. Its primary sponsor was the Dean of the House, John Dingell of Michigan. The bill is a revised version of an earlier measure, the proposed America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (HR 3200 [18][19]). The revisions included refinements designed to meet the goals outlined in the President's address to a joint session of Congress in September, 2009 concerning health care reform. In 1989 the idea for the "individual mandate" that every household obtain adequate health care was proposed by a conservative think tank known as the Heritage Foundation [20] and supported in congress by high profile republicans Newt Gingrich, Orin Hatch and Charles Grassley in 1993.[21]
So you could be covered by Medicaid if Texas expanded it with the feds? What did the basic low cost entail? Cost/coverage etc. A lot of the people I know personally that trash talk Obamacare aren't on it, don't know anyone on it, and benefit from some of the changes it brought about.
It would have failed no matter who pushed it this bill was changed by both dems and rebs it shouldn't have been passed by house or senate.
Okay you didn't provide any answer. Which is the entire point of insurance. It is to share risk. People get cancer. What they do now? No way to afford that. A lot of life is just straight up luck. The companies I have worked for have paid over 50k in premiums, but I have never been to the doctor. People need to stop thinking about themselves once in a while.
I am not a fan of Obamacare as an independent contractor I pay a lot for a plan with a high deductible - essentially a plan I can't use. But I don't blame Obamacare for that - it's been trending that way for the last 20 years. Every years plans get worse or more expensive or both. So this isn't Obamacare causing this problem, it's a case of Obamacare not stopping the tide. Yes Obamacare needs to be replaced - with a single payer system. There is no other viable solution.
The problem is.....the Republican congress refuses to help by putting in common-sense fixes. Instead....they just want to go back to the previous system where insurers can do what the hell they want.
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More important question, since the health insurance and health care system was obviously broken before, why didn't republicans try to fix it before? And if the Affordable Care Act is so "broken", why don't they try to fix it? Answer both questions.
First of all, "crime". I could post the definition of the word crime and challenge you to explain how it applies, but you'd sidestep it anyway. So, instead, I will challenge you to describe the efforts republicans had made to address the very real and growing problems with the health insurance and health care systems leading up to the passage of the Affordable Care Act. And if ACA is now a problem, what have the republicans done to fix or improve ACA.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime - an act that is foolish or wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_Prosperity for one tried to repeal it. Why is the only solution to the ACA to keep/fix it? Why is getting rid of it off the table for you?
I use the exchange, I'm 63, semi-retired with some investments that yield negative K-1's so I qualify. My wife has pre-existing conditions. I'll let you guys know how it goes. We had Aetna this year. The last two years we A. had insurance and B. got large subsidies, so the ACA has worked for me. The ACA's problem as I see it is you just can't sell Healthcare as a 'for profit' business because people do not make rational choices based on economics. Pain, infirmity or death are not acceptable 'economic balance' choices, you will spend whatever it takes to avoid them. The people at risk for them are going to be all in so it becomes expensive, the people with small risks are going to avoid participation. The private insurance companies want profits so they charge more, in excess of their costs. "Socialism" is where people band together to pay for things that can't be payed for by individuals and where the group benefits try to exceed the individual costs. Medical care can fit this description and it works well in many Western countries. But the US system is already established, it would be very hard to try to assemble the pre-existing parts into systemic change so at the first effort and one written by private companies we ended up with the hybrid ACA. Inevitably it will evolve, my vision would be a National non-profit insurance company, like a national Blue Cross, which I guess would be close to a single payer plan, with the option of private plans for those who want to pay for it. It will be slower, it will have "death panels" and some people are going to decry the inequity dis-allowing some treatments, it will be a huge bureaucracy .
The plan I was on before Obamacare was almost exactly like what the lowest cost Obamacare plans now offer, but at a much lower price. I had been on the plan for about three years, but not long enough to be grandfathered. As I stated, you can blame whoever you want, but when Obamacare started, my policy was cancelled and no affordable alternative was available. One of my biggest complaints about Obamacare, was that the overall cost of healthcare is not being reduced. Costs keep going up. Obamacare helps some people but hurts others. For ME it would have been better for Obamacare to have never happened. I blame the Republicans, the state of Texas, and Obamacare for me not having an affordable option.
