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I've finally have decided not support Trump and here's why

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Hehe Trump supporters in full meltdown mode. Can't wait for election day to see what the Trumpanzees do. Trumpy keeps digging his own grave.

    Meanwhile, Hillary be like

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  2. Amiga

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    Certainly not video on youtube. I personally don't like watching video clips. I prefer to read. My stance here is of course of skepticism. I don't see anything to change my mind yet. I read some of the wikileaks email - while knowing that they can be altered, I still haven't seen much of anything in them.
     
  3. tmacfor35

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    Shouldn't a candidate who has an awful tax plan and believes in "Open Border" be a deal breaker for any voter?

    I just don't understand.
     
  4. tmacfor35

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    Manipulated? Have you seen the news lately. They are squarely in the Clinton camp. They are ignoring the important issues and focusing on fake Trump allegations.

    The google searches indicate more people want to hear about Wikileaks and there is no substantial reporting of that on CNN,ABC,NBC,MSNBC etc. I think the propaganda that's going on is rather unamerican.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Only if you believe it's awful and have a problem with "open"... Wait, but it's Trump on the other side... Tough.
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    well what do you expect? your allies and saviors who released them are non-american
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    Typical Pivot.

    This isn't about Trump. It
    Reputable news stations should show as little bias as possible. This is borderline communist propaganda.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Fact is that Bill Clinton brought 10 billion dollar (along with Bush) into the country after that disaster. Businesses are going to do things to help themselves, and there is always a relationship part to it - that's the incentive to do such work. It's because of the fact they are the Clintons and have so many relationships that they can help reconstruct a country. There is no evidence of embezzlement - not all the projects worked out but many did, and many homes were built - far more than what the Red Cross accomplished.
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    Rockets Legend claimed to be a black woman on this very board to try and support his "point".

    Should tell you all you need to know.
     
  10. BleedRocketsRed

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    I don't think anyone can defend these actions. She (as well as Bill) is (are) obviously corrupt. But corrupt would just be business as usual. We lived through Obama/Bush/Clinton, all of which were corrupt and shady.

    He on the other hand is dangerous. Throughout this campaign, he has proven he does not know wtf he is doing (which is scary). The entire thing has been an absolute mess. Somebody does need to stand up to the establishment but he is not that guy. He is vile, divisive, thin-skinned, untrustworthy.

    I don't want to vote for Clinton (I was a Sanders supporter) BUT I don't have much of a choice.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    there is not a single ounce of truth to these allegations

    because if there was then the republican congress and senate would have been all over it already ala benghazi, email server, etc

    feel free to google it and see if fox news have reported on any investigations regarding these
     
  12. Amiga

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    For some reason, you brought tax and border into this thread. But whatever you believe, Trump simply isn't Presidential in any manner and this election is now actually mostly about rejecting him than anything. I mean, look at his latest outrage. The dude got angry at SNL's skit. What happen when some foreign show makes fun of him? He's going to bomb them?
     
  13. BigDog63

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    Based on? Her lies? This story, showing how they bilked the very people they keep claiming they are for? Her total disregard for our national security (email, uranium, selling access, etc)? Based on...what? Not saying Trump doesn't have his own set of issues, but if you go down the list, at best they are about the same, but more likely Clinton ends up on the losing end of that comparison, especially if you look at...the last 10-20 years..
     
  14. tmacfor35

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    Hilary is going to fake it until she makes it.

    Once she's in, her true policies will come out.

    Not going to be very American.
     
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    What I find most hilarious about the "Hillary is the most corrupt politician ever" platitude is that what are we comparing her 'corruption' to? 30 years of hit pieces, investigations that were self admittedly political and partisan in nature(straight from the mouth of GOP politicians), leaked emails, leaked transcripts etc.

    So where are the leaked RNC emails? Where are all the leaked emails of Trump's campaign managers? Newt Gingrich this morning explicitly stated "Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt politician of all time". K, Mr. Gingrich, can we have the RNC emails leaked, yours also Mr. Gingrich along all your speech transcripts etc so we can compare? How the **** can you make this claim when we have no relative comparison?

    If you want to make the case that Hillary Clinton is abnormally corrupt relative to the field, then the only rational thing a skeptic would ask is can we have an even playing field and have RNC emails leaked, prominent GOP politician speech transcripts leaked etc?

    Newt, if you are so confident in your claim, why not tell the RNC to post all their private emails to the public? I think it's only fair.

    Only one side is having all their private correspondences leaked. Trump nut huggers can't see that. The can't see the pure hypocrisy because they are idiots.

    The mere fact that wikileaks ONLY 'leaks' out DNC/Hillary leaks should be a giant red flag of outright bias for any rational skeptic but of course, no one ever pegs a Trump supporter as a 'rational skeptic'.
     
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  16. Realjad

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    When the green party candidate prefers Trump to Hillary Clinton, because of Hillary's corruption and warmongering. That should said a lot

    Think about it for a second

    The green party prefers someone who has been the most outspoken against the subject that their entire party is based on, because Hillary is more dangerous.
     
  17. BleedRocketsRed

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    Well the Green Party candidate wants votes for her party....
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree and I've often said in recovery circles that economic development including private projects need to be included in any recovery. Why though I'm saying attention needs to be spent on this is that for much of the general public very little is understood about how messy of a process it is to recover from disasters especially in countries like Haiti. One problem I've noticed is that there is so much cynicism out there about aid and the result is that more harm is being done to the people who actually need it. This is one area where more transparency is needed.

    One other very sad affect of all of the attention that the campaign has been taking particularly the outrageous statements and actions of Trump is that less attention has been paid to the devestation wrought by Hurricane Matthew both in Haiti but also here in the US.
     
  19. RocketsLegend

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    what the **** are you talking about?
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I would be highly interested to read and learn about any shady business the Clinton Foundation might have engaged in in the Haiti relief efforts. Since no serious attempt was made to explain the injustice though, I'm led to assume there's probably nothing there. Maybe, if I've some dead time I'll do some reading on my own.

    Well, yeah.
     

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