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Wednesday, November 9th

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    Its Wednesday, November 9th, 2016. We have elected a President (probably Hillary Clinton)

    What happens next? I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

    My opinion:

    Republicans hold on to the Congress (losing a lot of seats) and BARELY hold the Senate. Clinton wins in a landslide.

    Regardless of who is elected president, approximately half the country will be SEETHING in anger, with absolutely no chance to appeal to the half of the country who hates them. In Clinton's case, she will never have legitimacy with these people because of the Email server, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation, and all the controversy surrounding her past and her lying. Even many of those voting for Clinton are doing it half heartedly....more voting against Trump than for Clinton.

    I predict Clinton has no honeymoon and there will be continued calls for an independent investigation to look into Clinton's dealings. I also predict we haven't seen the last of Trump. He doesn't strike me as someone who will go away and with all these rabid followers I predict he will work to create a new television network that appeals to his base of voters.

    I predict Clinton will put forward a nominee for the Supreme Court early on and that there will be a vicious fight over that person's nomination. I predict the chastened Republican party will begin to show more backbone after the criticisms from their base during this election campaign and let the chips fall where they may. The days of laying down for the democrats over budget fights, govt shutdowns, etc are over. Fighting with Obama was a losing battle politically. Fighting with Clinton will be much less so.

    In short....its gonna be a long 4 years.
     
  2. sirbaihu

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    LOL Republicans have been keeping the Supreme Court at 8 justices for months!

    2013 budget battle-->government shutdown-->Grand Canyon closed-->cost local businesses $200,0000. Thanks GOP.

    And the word is "lying," not "laying."
     
  3. TheresTheDagger

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    You confuse my predictions with support for these actions. Meanwhile...

    If you could not attack anyone that doesn't agree with your worldview for a few minutes and give me your predictions on what's next, that would be on topic....an appreciated. Thanks.
     
  4. Rashmon

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    You mean a long 8 years...
     
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    I LOL'd at your claim and corrected your vocabulary. If you can show me where I attacked you, I'd like to see it. . . . Mainly I was refuting your idea that the GOP has been lying down under women's skirts I mean "lying down for Democrats," as my quotation of your post shows. Now I'm sure you will appreciate my prediction for what's next as much as I appreciate yours, so here it is:

    The Trump people will b**** severely. E-mail-gate will continue for two more years, with no result. Trump will realize his haphazard presidential run was "a total disaster" for his brand.
     
  7. Mr.Scarface

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    I think the Dems take the Senate and close the gap in the House.
     
  8. Chilly_Pete

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    My prediction is that Trump will still have small hands.
     
  9. TheresTheDagger

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    I see. LOL's and correcting vocabulary isn't being rude to me...its simply "being helpful". Do I have that about right?

    Thanks for answering the topic question.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    If Trump and his hardcore supporters had a Jim Jones-style Guyana Koolaid party the world would instantly become a better place.
     
  11. Nook

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    Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation are not even on the radar. The people that "hate" Hillary Clinton are the same people that hated Obama and Bill Clinton before that.

    Almost every four years there is a real threat of gridlock. Whenever the pendulum swings too radical one way, it swings back the other.

    Where the Republicans screwed up is not supporting Obama's SCOTUS nominee. Prepare for Hillary to nominate a 45 year half black/half Arab pan sexual. She will also likely get to appoint several others. Ginsberg will step down (83 yes old). Kennedy is 80 and Breyer is 77. Statistically; Uncle Thomas is 68 and Alito is 66, there is a real possibility two or more of that foursome dies or steps down in the next four years. You could have Hillary naming up to 3-4 Justices in the next four years. If Hillary gets 8 years.... well she will likely get to turnover half the court as.... Ginsberg would be 91, Kennedy 88, Breyer 85, (Scalia opening), Thomas 76, Alito 74, Roberts 69.
     
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  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    After 8 more years of the world not ending and the US not going bankrupt, Republicans and Libertarians will still be screaming how the US is going to hell.
     
  13. mc mark

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    Can you imagine? A kid born in 2008 could turn 16 and not know a white male president!

    Now that's making America great!
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    You are a very condescending douchebag who adds nothing to the conversation. Ever.
     
  15. Amiga

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    The US population continue to become more diverse. And if the GOP continue down the path of a white-only strategy, they will lose again.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree that a lot of what you said is very possible and one of the big worries I have is what turmoil might happen immediately following the election. I posted this article in another thread about Trump supporters threatening violence.
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...s-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html

    We've never seen a major party candidate attempt to delegitimize an opponent to the point of threatening to jail them before. Remember in 2008 there was a lot of anger on the Left over the outgoing Bush Admin. and many called for the incoming Obama Admin. to prosecute GW Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and many others for war crimes. Obama openly and consistently refused to do so and never made that an issue in his campaign. At he same time John McCain would confront even his own supporters when they would say vile things about Obama. Both of them understood that while they had huge differences in politics that deligitimizing opponents and using the tools of power to prosecute your opponents was dangerous to the country. Trump though has shown no such restraint and has continued to rally his base by appealing to the worst speculations and fears of them.

    This doesn't mean that Hillary Clinton is completely blameless her secrecy, double talk, hubris and frankly sloppiness at times has made it too easy to feed into negative views of her. She needs to speak to a very divided country and needs to address concerns about her. NOt to win the election but to be able to govern. She needs to show far more humilty and openness. Just because Trump is self-destructing doesn't mean everything is fine with her campaign.

    What is going to be very important is the election night speeches. How each candidate approaches the results of the election will tell a lot of what happens to the country.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    I would say Hillary will be a 1 term president, however she should be a no term president. The Republicans screwed this pooch this year and I don't have the confidence it will be any different in 4 years.

    The biggest issue with a Hillary presidency is everyone will be out to get her. Obama has it bad with the Republicans, but Hillary will see a huge backlash. While I don't think Obama has done a spectacular job, he's played it safe, rode out the storm and has done a decent job overall. Hillary is not going to get this luxury. She will have half of congress and half of the nation betting she fails. She has to bat 1.00. Every minor incident (like Benghazi) will be presented as a colossal failure. The bigger issue is she will have Putin there creating chaos the entire time.
    I can already predict the Democrats blaming the Republicans for them putting their terrible candidate on the ticket.

    I think its all downhill for Trump after this. Nobody but his fringe supports are going to bat an eye at his rigged election nonsense. After Nov. 9th, the entire Republican party will turn on him. Trump is toxic that even the business world will not want to deal with his brand.
     
  18. leroy

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    In a way, I agree with Space Ghost. I also think President Clinton will only get one term. I think she will have a primary challenger in Senator Joaquin Castro (who will have beaten Rick Perry in a brutal senate campaign in 2018) who beats her and eventually becomes the first Hispanic president.

    It will happen because the GOP maintains a slight hold on both houses in Congress and they spend the next 4 years dragging President Clinton into hearing after hearing on subjects that have already been adjudicated, making it nearly impossible for her to get anything done. Any gains we've made over the last 8 years will slow to a halt because the GOP will have made the decision do so even less than they did during President Obama's terms.
     
  19. Dairy Ashford

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    The Articles and Amendments don't provide for a set number of Justices, so don't be surprised if Republicans are every bit as inclined to ignore Sappho's Supreme Court nominee as they were Satchmo's.
     
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    Facebook is going to be ****ing annoying
     
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