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Tal's Hill gone in 2016, CF fences to be moved in

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketpower2, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. J.R.

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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Please don't help them.
     
  3. Progs

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    I suppose that the center Field wall will go across where the wood fence ends towards where the concrete ends across from it.
     
  4. Nick

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    Just follow the warning track... that's about where it will go.
     
  5. jim1961

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    #225 jim1961, Oct 12, 2016
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  6. Nick

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    Sure.... but check out the Dome power alleys... and the space from foul-pole to foul-pole.

    Absolute distance of CF is not typically the end-all/be-all of what makes it a good hitters or pitchers park. When you have a LF of 315 and a RF of 325, with shallow alleys to begin with, shortening any other dimension will impact power numbers.
     
  7. jim1961

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    Well sure. One fence doesn't define a ballpark. Moving this one fence wont totally change the character of MM park either.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Uh, yes it will.

    "This one fence". Damn.
     
  9. jim1961

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    Maybe for whoever is playing CF, but not in a bad way.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    If you don't think the dimensions of a park affect how pitchers pitch and how fielders (not just the CF) align I don't know what to tell you, other than that you're wrong.
     
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    I am talking about the one fence being moved at MMP, not an encompassing analysis on all the dimensions.
     
  12. Nick

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    The deep LCF and RCF power alleys are immediately affected by your "one fence".

    Routine outs at the base of the hill are now potential heroic (or non-heroic) plays against the wall.

    Just because not that many balls landed on the actual hill doesn't mean this won't affect the overall park factor in a skewed hitters way. The dimensions are now basically a cozier Camden yards...a extreme hitters park.
     
  13. tellitlikeitis

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    DUH... when I read that headline. One of the article's argument is the Astros have a ground ball inducing staff but doesn't that mean it won't change a much because with a ground ball you the fence could be a ridiculous 1ft away and it wouldn't be a homerun. So I'm a bit confused by the overall argument. I do agree with the article that we'll have less triples and more homeruns but I'm not sure you need detailed research and analysis to conclude that.
     
  15. Houstunna

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    Be sure to check astros.com...
    MM CF dirt for sale
    Padded green panels for sale
    MM CF grass for sale
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Hit the bull, you win a free steak.
     
  17. Nick

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    "You having fun yet?"
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness." -- Annie Savoy
     
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    The new chain link fence looks dope, but that is going to fall down on contact.
     
  20. Nook

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    The Astros should remove the hill and put a barbed wire fence around the perimeter and maybe a few bulls where the hill used to be.
     

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