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This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Snow Villiers, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. rezdawg

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    You do realize he put up 125 more yards in the air than the Colts averaged giving up, right? That's almost 50% more than the Colts averaged for the previous 4 weeks. The Colts were something like 21st in the league against the pass before Hoyer pushed them to 29th.

    700 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INT in his two starts. And both of those games, he's far exceeded what that defense has given up in the air. Will this continue? No. But to discount it like you do is hilarious. Also, you're setting yourself up for quite the failure unless Brock surpasses 400 yards 2 TD and no turnovers against the Colts on Sunday. Anything less than that, and you have nothing further to say.
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    Nope, if that happens he will continue to make excuses for Brock for some reason. He will blame Hopkins, he will blame the O-Line, he will blame the playcalling. It's odd how he hated Hoyer's guts and never made excuses for his play (despite playing with the same o-line, same hopkins, and same coaching) but sticks up for Brock Osweiler every chance he gets. Btw I'm no Hoyer fan, Hoyer sucks too, just like Brock so far.
     
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    That is not the reason why were are losing to great teams. The coaching staff is screwing the pooch on this one Mr. Clutch. Yes Brock is playing outrageously bad but the coaching staff's play calling isn't making this better. It starts with them.
     
  4. rezdawg

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    And Hoyer didnt have Fuller, revived CJ, and had an even worse RB tandem. That's what I dont get...hate on Hoyer all you want, but be fair in your analysis. If you want to say Hoyer is the worst, ever...absolutely fine. But then you should also rank Osweiler, thus far, down there too. Just 2 days ago, he said Osweiler has played above average this season...which makes absolutely zero sense. There are zero people with any football knowledge, that can say that...and even Hey Now! has acknowledged that Brock has been crap up to this point. It becomes more comical by the day...because he is driven by his own agenda and cant face the fact that he is wrong.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't blame Brock ultimately. He'll prove to be average/mediocre.

    The real blame lies on BOb's and Rick's personnel moves. We are losing talent every year and replacing it with crap
     
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    Oh wow, in that case I bet his team won.....oh wait, what's this you're telling me? You win games with points and not yards? Oh well then I guess your little nonsense excuse making was pointless then huh?

    You might be the only person on the planet other than Mr. Clutch who isn't directly related to Hoyer who would think that the Texans would do as well or better if they had his sorry ass still around. There's just no case for it.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    Did Hoyer have a losing record as the Texans starter?

    I have no issues claiming that Hoyer is not a good NFL QB. The issue here is that you defend Osweiler as if he has played well this season. Hoyer sucks...everyone knows that. Osweiler has been bad, only you seem to not get that.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Did he beat the Chiefs or did he look like the worst QB to ever hold a football? It's really weird that you are picking this issue to fight to the death on. Normally I'd just laugh about someone defending Hoyer as much as you do but I've just gotta know, when did you first realize that you were Hoyer's biggest fan (with apologies to Mr. Clutch)?
     
  9. rezdawg

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    I pick the issues bc every week this season, you have gone above and beyond trying to defend Brock.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Does Bobby not like Brian Hoyer or something?
     
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    Make that 3 of us. Hoyer is obviously better than Brock right now. I hope Brock gets better but I don't see it happening. The book on him is out. Put help over the top or blitz him and make him throw short passes. He misses too many short open passes to sustain drives. The coaching staff can't coach their way around a QB with accuracy problems.
     
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    I think he's a marginal starter in the league and better than Mallet. Even his current season is better than Mallet's stats.

    His ceiling is Fitzpatrick and Hoyer.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    Albert Breer was on MAD Radio this morning; he's (I believe) based in Boston; has covered New England and knows their system, etc.

    He had some interesting perspective; specifically, that the NE system is wildly complicated and he thought one of the reasons so many NE coaches have failed elsewhere is they've tried to replicate that system while missing two key ingredients - Brady and Belichick. Further, and this is what I thought was really spot-on, there's really no such thing as the NE system any more - it's become the NE/Brady system as he has been able to revamp/tailor the system to his strengths. And when these coaches try and implement it elsewhere, it's essentially built for Brady and makes it even harder for guys to grasp it because they're having to learn all of its intricacies while trying to morph into Tom Brady.

    So if there's hope... BOB sees/understands this and will start to morph/rework his system to accommodate what Brock does well.

    One thinhs I've heard about BOB - he has no ego; if what he's doing doesn't work, hes not afraid to admit and start over. To me, Brock looks like he's playing at 300 MPH; no patience. BOB needs to dumb his system down for Brock; QBs need to think less.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    If it's so complicated how were Fitz and Hoyer able to put 90+ qbratings in the system? And this was with Hopkins as the only viable weapon.

    A better explanation IMO is that the OL is complete garbage. Neither Osweiler nor Miller are this bad with an adequate line.
     
  19. roxallways

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    If this is accurate that's not too comforting either. Just tired of all these sorry QBs.
     
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    Christ... Cmon man, he's 3-2 right now, thats better than the start last year with Hoyer, who was pulled mid-game because he was doing so badly. Brock is playing absolutely terrible right now, but giving him a ceiling of Hoyer is laughable.
     

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