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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. MojoMan

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    Trump is certainly unfit for the presidency and has been at every point in his campaign.

    But let's try to keep some perspective here. What is worse, Donald Trump's spectacularly vulgar, narcissistic misogyny? Or Hillary Clinton selling favors to some of the vilest regimes on the planet and her conspiring together with others to knowingly mishandle classified information and national secrets in a way that made them accessible to ALL of our enemies, many of whom now possess this information, which has substantially compromised the national security of our country?

    Seriously, both of these people are world-class turds who are profoundly unfit to be president. But anyone who thinks that what Trump has done is worse than what Hillary has done, there is something mentally wrong with you in a serious way.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    So about 60 percent of this country has something seriously mentally wrong with them?
     
  3. SamFisher

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    I hope this thought of Russian/Putin liberation brings you comfort from your rusty FEMA camp cot next year.
     
  4. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
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    Hahahaha, this was Houston's own Fahrenthold @ The Post again wrecking TheDonald. Go Dave! Killing it since the days of the MHS Anvil newspaper...
     
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  5. sammy

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    Lol at the resident teenager trump nut hugger. Go make your man a sammich. If anyone is a derogatory gay term, it's you. You must breathe through your nose since Trump's balls are always being gargled in your mouth
     
  6. BleedRocketsRed

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    This is very true. Based on the way he acts, it is clear that he needs a man in his life to take control of him. I really hope he finds it because his incredibly strange obsession with Trump is really get annoying.
     
  7. Dubious

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    There is always a culture war going on between those that would elevate civilization and those that would dumb it down, Why you would want to promote hate and vulgarity to lead your ship is a mystery to me. Realistically wouldn't you want your becon of hope at the top?

    ///four more years
     
  8. durvasa

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    The problem with this perspective is that it's comparing apples and oranges. Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, was in a position where her decisions had greater global impact -- both for good and bad. One can easily formulate an argument, if so inclined, that any past US president has done "worse" things than Donald Trump because of the power of the office they held. But to jump from that to "Therefore, Donald Trump would make a better President" is just fallacious reasoning.

    Even with the belief that Hillary Clinton would probably be a corrupt and dishonest President (which probably fairly describes a good portion of them that we've had), Trump has shown no indication that anyone should expect better from him, and every indication that we should expect much, much worse.
     
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  9. TheRealist137

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    Someone should release those un-aired Apprentice tapes through wikileaks, unless Trump's boy Assange won't allow that to happen.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Putin gives out concrete shoes for Christmas! He's so generous.
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Russia is an ally... o_O
     
  12. Deckard

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    Good lord, dude. You can't seriously be describing Russia under Putin as an ally, can you? Incredible. They are not an ally and haven't been an ally since WWII. With all due respect, do you know NOTHING of history? What strange capsule have you been hiding in? Do you find it impossible to separate the government of Russia from the people of Russia? My significant other has been to Russia on business and has worked with Russians both there and here in Austin. The Russians she knows are fine people. Generous and intelligent. They are NOT the Russian government under Putin.

    There are times that I can't believe what I am reading here. This is one of those times.
     
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    The offensive is worse than last year
     
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    I blame trump!!
     
  15. Nolen

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    I'm surprised to be doing RL's job for him, but here's the latest pieces from Breitbart to hit back and change the narrative:


    We are ‘Terrified’ of Hillary - Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey


    This could be persuasive with independent female voters. I find the three to be a bit 'coached' on the narrative most favorable to Trump:
    1) Women can't trust her! (Trump badly needs a wedge to win back suburban white females, or at least stop the hemorrhaging.)
    2) Can you imagine her as Commander in Chief? (Classic Trump turnaround: "I know you are but what am I?" "I'm not the scary one, she is!")
    I find it strange that the hardest accusations they could come up with against Hillary are "She called us bimbos!", or that she's an enabler. Don't they have stronger stuff than that against Hillary? In the end, it may not matter, because emotional impact is what counts when persuading people, and this has it.

    Juanita Broaddrick Relives Bill Clinton Rape/Hillary Intimidation


    This is powerful, and I find Juanita to be very believable. Lots of emotional impact, and can turn people away from the Clintons. Again, I find it odd that in an 8 minute video, the only thing specifically against Hillary is that she made a statement that could maybe sort of be construed as threatening? Surely there's something more specific against Hillary to say?

    Someone made a good point in Slate- since the 90s, progressives talk about accusations of rape differently. These days it's more common for accusers to believe the accuser first. If Hillary's team goes with the tactic of denying the accusation, of attacking the credibility of the accuser, then that can be exploited as a wedge between her and younger progressive female voters.

    (edit: tried to improve the links)
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    Wait I thought the Clintons killed their enemies? How are these women still alive and been alive for decades while going after the Clintons?

    Sorry that might've been too much but again this is the mindset that Clinton opponents have put out there.

    As for the direct accusations these have been out there and news since the early 90's, they have been investigated and nothing more has come from them. Bill Clinton is sleezy and clearly has a weakness for women and trouble with being faithful but that isn't the same as what Trump is basically bragging about in his tape, forcing himself on married women.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    Chris Christie appears to have abandoned trump
     
  18. Nolen

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    Link? I'm not seeing anything.
     
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    CNN reporting that he cancelled planned appearances today for trump and did not show up for debate prep with trump as planned
     
  20. CometsWin

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    When that opportunist douche abandons you then you know you're screwed. The only two bigger opportunist douches are Giuliani and Gingrich.
     

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