DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Really? Even for no big names RFAs when they actually go and meet with teams it's leaked. Even if the offers aren't leaked.

 

I have to admit I don't see how this could all stay under wraps so well, without even generating media speculation or rumors.

 

I do wonder if this was one of those "Just be patient and we'll take care of you" type of scenarios that has gone south.

 

This situation is getting worse. Last thing we need is DMo signing here not on his own terms because of no other options and then being disgruntled. Can affect team chemistry big time.

 

Yes I agree with that

Not sure what you are saying though. Could you spell out your universe of understanding of how all free agent negotiations (and trade talks for that matter) occur.

 

Spell my universe? ???

If Dmo had gone and met with a GM it would have been leaked. If there were some preliminary talks between a FO and his agent they possibly could not have been leaked however these talks wouldn't have gone to the extent of actually offering an offersheet.

 

There have been several reports of BJ meeting with Morey or talking to him. Early July, mid July and early Sept and deadline weekend o name four. Just no movement. That is indeed news. They just aren't releasing much in the way of details. And BJ's weak ultimatum was obviously ignored by Morey

In all that, BJ has said they have talked to other teams. But again, no details of what is being offered or rejected

Bottomline: we are getting news of talks, just no details. Honestly, that common Morey, and why threads here constantly ask "why so quiet" especially regarding trades

 

And you are saying all talks involve the player flying to meet a GM.

And by offer sheet do you mean it actually has to be typed up and handed to the player?

 

All? Nope. I clearly said that in preliminary talks there's no face to face meetings. When it gets Serious and to the final stage? Yes. Tell me which rfa player has signed without even meeting the GM if you want to change my opinion.

No I mean when the team is ready to make a contract offer.

 

@malakas
So in your universe of understanding, GMs and agents can discuss #s over the phone, maybe at Summer League, Olympics or even use back door channels, and details of which maybe you don't even tell the client, much less media

So yes I agree there is still a possibility no GM handed DMo a typed up contract to sign. Although we do know from his Twitter location that he was in LA, fwiw

Btw: I'm using the word universe in the Logic sense of the word. You seems to be using existential quantification to imply universal ones in some domain of possibilities that might be smaller than mine

Make sense

 

I'm not native english speaker lol
Spell my universe first time I see this expression.

You are the one who misunderstands and believes that what I'm saying is that face to face is actually to hand out contracts. Nope.
What I'm saying is that when things get serious and are in the final stages, teams have face to face meetings with the players. Why? Not to physically hand out contracts. To have interview, explain the role they want him to play, show videos etc usually in the presence of the coach as well, even in the case of DMO possibly have a doctor examine him. After that if things work out well, they can be given offersheets in face to face meetings or not. Talking just with the agent is not enough for GMs.

There has been no report of DMO meeting personally with a GM. If he had it would be an absolute shock that it wasn't leaked anywhere at the time or later on. (especially when looking for leverage). So almost for sure it has NOT happened .
Therefore the talks have never gotten to a serious stage.
That's my opinion and my universe and what I have seen that FAs and agents and FOs do.
If the talks haven't gotten to the final stages, DMO has not been offered any kind of offersheet.

 

exactly a year ago we both had lengthy debates here about your insistence that dmo would easily get MAX offers.......and now he can't get any offer

 

Time is certainly not helping Dmo's position.

The Rockets look excellent so far, and there has been exactly zero times where I have said, man we really need Dmo here.

He needs to swallow his pride and take the 2 year deal with the second year non guaranteed.

 

Unless one year ago when you made your argument you had prior knowledge into the future and how lengthy DMO's recovery would be then that says nothing.
I'm totally fine into having the same opinion as Lowe.

 

absolutely wrong, i specifically cited that it would take him a long while to recover and get back to the previous season's form. you just kept saying you knew the market better than anyone and dmo was a MAX certainty

 

And how did you know it would take him a long while to recover? Are you a psychic? Or have inside knowledge on the details of DMO's injury and rehab?
Whether I know the market better or not than you it doesn't matter. Does Lowe know it better than you though?

Market value is not something constant. That's why what you are saying right now makes me laugh. When someone fails to recover for long he loses his earning potential especially a RFA.

 

Man, I prefer heypartner posts explaining the wrinkles of some new play rather than some algebra formulas. I like when the athletes are the stars, not lawyers and accountants.

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...-me-help-at-guard.266602/page-10#post-9824875

pippendagimp said:
i would agree with all this, except the fact that a big man who doesn't secure the rebounds he's supposed to is a big red flag for GM's. and this offseason especially, it's going to be difficult for dmo to be in the weight room and get stronger due to his injury recovery. so if he's not able to noticably improve his stats upon last season, GM's will be even less hesitant to overpay for potential. they'll want to see a steady progression to justify paying for what they feel he can grow into (a max level player).

malakas said:
Its more hard to find : a)playmaking big b) versatile big c) 7 footer who posts up d) good team defender that finding a rebounding big.
Check this offseason and find out how hesitant they will be to give out mx contracts like candies. And its only the beggining.

#185 malakas, May 29, 2015

 

I feel bad that you went into such trouble searching but what exactly are you trying to prove? That you could have predicted that DMO not only he wouldn't go into the weight room but it would take him that much time to rehab? Dmo not only didn't look stronger, but he looked much worse than he used to be. You apparently said " improve his stats upon last season". But that's not even the case. His stats and perfomance got severely affected negatively by his injury.
Could you also predict that this year Cody Zeller out of a bone bruise he had in last season's playoffs still can't participate in contact practices?

I hope you are trying to argue that DMO before he got injured if he had exactly the same perfomance this year without any progression he would't get a max offer. Because that's what you are saying in your 1 year ago post.

 

wasn't much w/ the new search feature..... ~55sec .......well worth the minute to read you now squirming out of that "dmo's a maxxy max player in the new market" campaign