DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Offering the QO is a requirement of RFA. Saying "by offering only the QO" is missing the point that it must happen.

We also know from remarks by insiders here plus BJ Armstrong that Morey in fact did provide a multiyear offer. Just not enough. So, let's stop misusing the QO as what Morey wanted. He did NOT want DMo to sign that, as it would've taken away his ability to trade DMo.

 

The fact that it "must" happen to invoke an RFA scenario doesn't negate my point. In fact, that's part of my point. DD is saying if the Rockets thought the back might be a problem, they wouldn't have offered the QO. I think they would have offered the QO regardless; it's low risk. And there's likely also some multi-year contract that they view as acceptable given the risk associated with his back.

 

If that were the case, no RFA would ever get offers, which we know isn't true.

 

Gotcha

You mean we still have people saying the back issue is not affecting DMo/BJ's ability to get what they want in some kind of universe of pretending the surgery and trade revocation would never hurt a player's market value?

 

Yes.

DD

 

Man, I look forward to him being signed so we can start that next thread. "DMo is hakeem" or "DMo is broken" etc etc. Haha, I'm honestly looking forward to season, hopefully DMo gets on board so we can all see where he is at.

 

That is not true - some get offers early, some get them late (hello Carl Landry) and some sign the QO.

The market has changed, DMo is in a weird situation, his back is an issue, but not a big one, and the Rockets have him by the short hairs...

It is clear some of you have an agenda against the guy - leaping to all sorts of conclusions about the situation.

We just have to wait.

DD

 

I think most would say this about you.

A couple posts ago, you were saying - DMo's health didn't have anything to do with his contract situation, or the fact that the Rockets offered him $4.4M means the Rockets find him totally healthy. You might as well argue the Earth is flat or the sky is green.

 

Dwight signed 2 near max contracts after his back surgery and no one for a moment doubted his health. I think being restricted and Rockets showing clear intent to keep him is the biggest reason why other teams don't throw money at DMo, and not the back concerns.

It's weird, why would DMo meet with D'Antoni prior to FA and pose for pictures, showing his intent to stay in Houston for everyone to see? Maybe they already had a deal, then after Anderson was signed Morey backed out and started lowballing? Was DMo promised a contract in exchange to waiting out till Rockets fill the roster? In that case Morey is true satan, but I bet details about it would have come to light already if it was so. Weird situation. Is that Wesserman group a highroller in sports bizz? They seem amateur.

 

Oak, if the Rockets were worried about his back, they would have offered him

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Like they did to TJones - the fact that they offered the QO says they are interested in keeping him.

I don't understand how people are leaping to conclusions about his back being the reason for his lack of offers - when IMHO, it is more about him being a RFA than anything.

In order to sign DMo a team would have to WAY overpay him ala Chandler Parsons so the Rocks would not match - and why do that and tie up potential cap room next year when the cap goes up?

DMo is stuck in a unique situation, as a RFA - he is sort of stuck in a take it or leave it scenario - I am frankly shocked that he did not take the QO, which signifies (IMHO) that he either has a better deal with Morey already but is not quite happy with the parameters or he wants out - and that is not something easy to do as a RFA.

So, I believe this is all posturing, his back is fine (or not a big concern) and that he and the team are still trying to work it out.

DD

 

This isn't true. They're almost certainly weighing his potential against the risk associated with his back. It's not all or nothing. It just effects the size of the offer.

 

The Rockets doctors cleared him he played in the playoffs, they know more about his condition than you or I, clearly they were not bothered by it, so they offered the QO.

Either way, gonna have to wait.

DD

 

It's not that they weren't bothered by it , the qualifying offer was a calculated risk . The team likely views Dmo taking the QO as a worst case scenario , but one they are willing to live with .

 

dmo is like the ignored internet stock that got some play for a couple months a couple years ago, but disappoints on the whole and eventually just whittles down from a twenty something to a teenager to a toddler etc.

and morey is like the deer-in-the-headlights hanger-oner who never sells high and just stubbornly holds on in full zombie mode while his dogs with fleas gravitate towards zero

 

You are missing the point if the back was a SERIOUS issue they would not have offered him the QO at all, like Terrance Jones.

DD

 

How do you define serious ? Career ending , of course hey wouldn't have .

But it's definitely serious enough to try trading him , definitely serious enough for Detroit to be able to fail him on the physical . It's definitely serious that no other team has offered him a sheet .

Before you go and say other teams didn't offer him a sheet because they knew the rockets would match .. That's just not true .
Maybe they wouldn't have offered 5 million since it is so close to the QO . But other teams don't know what value the rockets place on him . Maybe the rockets don't value him at over 5 million , hence they were willing to extend the QO , but wouldn't match an 8 mil offer sheet .

The fact that he hasn't gotten any kind of offer sheet from another team is confusing and points to a number of possibilities , one of them is that he is not viewed significantly higher on the free market than the 4.4 mil offer

 

^^ you are right we will have to wait

I'm not sure I believe the 8 mil a year deal was offered . I have not seen a reputable source confirm that .

In regards to teams having to overpay to even offer a sheet that's just not true , especially at this point . Teams offer RFA's contracts all the time that the original team matches . If what you are saying is true RFA's would never be offered sheets .

 

You have to understand the love DD has for Dmo. It's blinding to say the least. That's why those things you've mentioned keeps flying over his head. When it comes to Dmo he's not trying to hear it.

Now let us talk about James Harden or D Morey. He's very critical in his deliberation towards them.

 

I can sympathize , it's hard not to be a fan of Dmo . Also health issues always complicate the situation . Especially with the back there is a huge degree of uncertainty