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Clinton's Wall Street Speeches

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dandorotik, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. dandorotik

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    Well, I don't know about you all, but what I see from these speeches is a thoughtful, intelligent candidate who is realistic. A few things I might object to, but no bombshells.

    “And I am not taking a position on any policy, but I do think there is a growing sense of anxiety and even anger in the country over the feeling that the game is rigged. And I never had that feeling when I was growing up. Never. I mean, were there really rich people, of course there were. My father loved to complain about big business and big government, but we had a solid middle class upbringing. We had good public schools. We had accessible health care. We had our little, you know, one-family house that, you know, he saved up his money, didn’t believe in mortgages. So I lived that. And now, obviously, I’m kind of far removed because the life I’ve lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven’t forgotten it.” [Hillary Clinton Remarks at Goldman-Black Rock, 2/4/14]

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, this may be borne more out of hope than experience in the last few years. But Simpson-Bowles ― and I know you heard from Erskine earlier today ― put forth the right framework. Namely, we have to restrain spending, we have to have adequate revenues, and we have to incentivize growth. It’s a three-part formula. The specifics can be negotiated depending upon whether we’re acting in good faith or not. And what Senator Simpson and Erskine did was to bring Republicans and Democrats alike to the table, and you had the full range of ideological views from I think Tom Coburn to Dick Durbin. And they reached an agreement. But what is very hard to do is to then take that agreement if you don’t believe that you’re going to be able to move the other side. And where we are now is in this gridlocked dysfunction. So you’ve got Democrats saying that, you know, you have to have more revenues; that’s the sine qua non of any kind of agreement. You have Republicans saying no, no, no on revenues; you have to cut much more deeply into spending. Well, looks what’s happened. We are slowly returning to growth. It’s not as much or as fast as many of us would like to see, but, you know, we’re certainly better off than our European friends, and we’re beginning to, I believe, kind of come out of the long aftermath of the ‘08 crisis. [Clinton Speech For Morgan Stanley, 4/18/13]
     
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    CLINTON: You just have to sort of figure out how to ― getting back to that word, “balance” ― how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that’s not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed, and he called one of my favorite predecessors, Secretary Seward, who had been the governor and senator from New York, ran against Lincoln for president, and he told Seward, I need your help to get this done. And Seward called some of his lobbyist friends who knew how to make a deal, and they just kept going at it. I mean, politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position. And finally, I think ― I believe in evidence-based decision making. I want to know what the facts are. I mean, it’s like when you guys go into some kind of a deal, you know, are you going to do that development or not, are you going to do that renovation or not, you know, you look at the numbers. You try to figure out what’s going to work and what’s not going to work. [Clinton Speech For National Multi-Housing Council, 4/24/13]
     
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    “Now, it’s important to recognize the vital role that the financial markets play in our economy and that so many of you are contributing to. To function effectively those markets and the men and women who shape them have to command trust and confidence, because we all rely on the market’s transparency and integrity. So even if it may not be 100 percent true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged, that should be a problem for all of us, and we have to be willing to make that absolutely clear. And if there are issues, if there’s wrongdoing, people have to be held accountable and we have to try to deter future bad behavior, because the public trust is at the core of both a free market economy and a democracy.” [Clinton Remarks to Deutsche Bank, 10/7/14]

    “And anybody who has ever traveled in other countries, some of which shall remain nameless, except for Russia and China, you know that you can’t bring your phones and your computers. And if you do, good luck. I mean, we would not only take the batteries out, we would leave the batteries and the devices on the plane in special boxes. Now, we didn’t do that because we thought it would be fun to tell somebody about. We did it because we knew that we were all targets and that we would be totally vulnerable. So it’s not only what others do to us and what we do to them and how many people are involved in it. It’s what’s the purpose of it, what is being collected, and how can it be used. And there are clearly people in this room who know a lot about this, and some of you could be very useful contributors to that conversation because you’re sophisticated enough to know that it’s not just, do it, don’t do it. We have to have a way of doing it, and then we have to have a way of analyzing it, and then we have to have a way of sharing it.” [Goldman Sachs Builders And Innovators Summit, 10/29/13]
     
  4. Nook

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    No, there isn't anything terrible in the released speeches
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Thanks for posting these
     
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    This was completely twisted in a 10 second rant by a female Trump supporter on CNN today in her response to Trump's hot mic, lol. It came off as "Hillary doesn't relate to the middle class and sees herself as rich."
     
  7. dandorotik

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    I guess she missed this part: And now, obviously, I’m kind of far removed because the life I’ve lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven’t forgotten it.
     
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    I checked my Facebook before this. I saw that exact quote, and with those last five words you have in bold were left out. But of course they were...
     
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    So she admits that she has taken two sides on policy issues. Who is Hillary Clinton? Whoever the billionaires want her to be
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    These speeches are typical Clinton, very nuanced. I agree there is nothing overtly controversial but Clinton understood how easily they could be spun and figured that would've been yet another headache she wanted to avoid.
     
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    Intelligent people who read these entire passages can figure it out. There is nothing here that is damaging - there are points to be discussed and disagreed with, but nothing that is shocking unless someone lives in a complete shell.
     
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    She was also honest about how sometimes you have to cut backroom deals to get things done. Many people are not going to want to hear that, but that sounds realistic to me. Again, these are certainly topics that you can address with Clinton, and hold her accountable for, but not anything that would remotely disqualify her.
     
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    of course they leave it out - because they don't care about the truth, they know that lies are effective in manipulating people and once people bite they don't change their minds.

    The reason the right rips on the main stream media is because the media reports too much truth and facts. That's liberal bias!
     
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    Making fat paychecks with Goldman/JPMC/Citi/Blackrock when you know you're a front runner for the presidency isn't smart business or political savvy.

    It's typical Clinton hubris.
     
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    It's almost exactly the type of person I want for President.
     
  16. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You want a partisan politican? That's why everyone hates Ted Cruz.

    Pragmatism is a positive trait.
     
  17. Cohete Rojo

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    Sounds like someone is reminiscing about when America was great.
     
  18. DreamShook

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    There is nothing very damaging in these transcripts; Atleast nothing we don't already know about her. She should have just released them herself. This is why people don't trust her.
     
  19. Dairy Ashford

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    Is there even one Republican governor or senator who can speak this intelligently and even-handledly? The answer is yes, there are dozens. Which makes their nominating Jerry Glanville for Dwight Eisenhower's old job that much more confounding.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Hillary confirmed she's dishonest and can't be trusted just like most folks suspected. Hillary confirmed that she's uncomfortably close to Wall Street, and can't be trusted to make the real changes we need.

    Despite this, she's still a thousand times better than Donald Trump. I'm glad that me voting for a third party candidate in my state won't effect this race.
     

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