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DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. craguin

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    I view a DMo/Knight SnT this way:

    Knight's salary - $5M = minimum matching salary
    12606250 - 5000000 = 7606250

    DMo's salary x 0.5 + filler = 7606250

    CBA FAQ #89
    (certain conditions met) [...] the player's outgoing salary for trade purposes is either his previous salary or 50% of his new salary, whichever is greater. The team receiving the player always uses his new salary
     
  2. xiki

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    Hypothetical question (since Knight has been raised). Just curious, not a trade thread kinda trade.
     
  3. xiki

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    So, if I'm understanding trading a BY player for one under contract it could be doable if both sides are motivated. Frankly, unless the 'right' guy came back I'd much prefer DMo under three years control @TheToyShop.
     
  4. jump shooter

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    DD its obviously apparent the Rockets know DMO has got game but why will they not give him a long term contract? IMO it all still comes down to his 'former" back issues and wanting to see if he can overcome that first before investing in him long term. He's had one good year out of four years and the moment the Rockets signed Ryan Anderson to $80 million was a sign they did not have a huge vote of confidence in DMO as their future PF which is his natural position. I would love to see DMO back on the squad because I think he bolsters a very injury prone front line and could give the team different looks in post ups plus good positional defense which is heck of a lot better than Anderson's at the moment. I don't blame DMO's camp at all for trying to take care of his future while sitting out and I don't blame the Rockets in trying to cut the best deal for the franchise because in the end its only business.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Jump, I don't disagree with any of that.

    My point was the people who keep on harping about his back not being healthy, if that were the case the Rockets would not even offer him a dime.

    DD
     
  6. Zacatecas

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    Back injuries have a tendency to be chronic conditions. It is apparent that most of the league is weary of offering DMo his sought after contract because of this back injury history.

    I like DMo and his abilities, but I'd be hesitant to go anywhere near the type of contract being rumored about before the injury, 12-15 million a year for 4-5 years.
     
  7. malakas

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    Yeah I get it but that's one of DMO's issues right now. Noone wants bigs. Everyone wants wings. Knight theoritically can play the sg and so right now based on demand he's much more valuable than a combo big.
    A s+t of a big for a wing it's extremely hard to pull off right now with the current environment.
     
  8. oakdogg

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    Why would it be all or nothing? You don't think chronically injured players sign to play at a discount? I think Gordon's an example of this. Thinking a player has a high risk of being injured doesn't necessarily mean the player gets no offer. The risk is just considered in the offer. 40% chance they're injured and their pay is a writeoff. 60% they are healthy, and you have a real steal on the contract. That is how I would think it works, unless someone has info otherwise.
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    It's incredibly annoying that he didn't just accept the qualifying offer.
     
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  10. Batman Jones

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    People that say his back is still a problem look exactly as foolish as those that say it's not. Nobody knows. That's the whole point of any of this.
     
  11. JJWhat?

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    So why didn't Morey let him go like he did with Jones? If DMo is so broken why does Morey want to keep DMo so badly?
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Because he has shown promise. DM valued that promise at 4.4 mil and was apparently willing to go higher if another team presented an offer sheet. No team did so his value was set at 4.4 mil or less. Dumbest thing he's ever done was listening to his agent in rejecting that offer.

    He needs to be on the court. If he wants more money he needs to show he's worth it. When he does, he will get his payday. His agent is insisting he get paid before he proves himself -- that he's healthy, that he's improved, that he's reliable.... All questions the last four years have made very important ones. He needs to get on the court to answer those questions so he can get paid.

    His most lucrative way back on the court would have been to take the 4.4 before it expired. His agent is not working for him; his agent is working for himself. He needs to go back to the Rockets and ask for a ONE year deal at 4.4 to see if he can still get it. If he can still get it, he should take it and set about proving his worth so he can get his big payday. Not before he's proven himself, because not one GM will do that, but after. When he proves his worth he will go from 29 GM's that don't want him enough to issue an offer sheet to 30 GM's champing at the bit to pay him and pay him well.

    If D-Mo believes in himself this is a no-brainer. That he didn't take the offer says to me that he'd rather have a long-term contract even at a reduced rate because his back issues are such that he prefers security over the huge payday he could get after one very good season.
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    It's a better surprise than that.
     
  14. Nivos

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    Every time I see a new message on this thread I'm like: 'please Iet it be a Twitter announcement that he's back with the team'.
    And then it's another stupid argument about his 'market value'.
    C'mon guys, the team needs him, we all know that, the team needs everyone on board early and ready to war. Don't drag it. Yes or No and that's it.
     
  15. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    All the leverage is on our side. Rushing into anything would just be dumb.
     
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  16. heypartner

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    That will be a new thread. If someone posts the signing (or trade) announcement in this thread instead of making a new one, count on someone here copying that to a new thread. This could be a long wait, though.
     
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    Just to add another point to the very unreliable comparison to Tristan Thompson. His agent was Rich Paul shared with Lebron James, also one of his early clients to get a Max.

    None of those dynamics are in play here.
     
  18. CCity Zero

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    Haha, and then another thread discussing if he's a superstar or not, and also one just for his back. And then the sequel to this thread next offseason. Yay!!!
     
  19. Htownballer38

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    Hindsight is 50/50 DD. If they were confident in his back being 100%, they would have signed him to a healthy contract by now. But on the cool who really know but those that are actually in the loop. Nobody on here knows what's the hold up or the reason why the Rockets haven't signed him.
     
  20. snowconeman22

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    Why do you think it will be a long wait ? He almost has to sign before we make cuts right ? Or is he trying to go to another team ?

    It's so unclear what's going on here , and frankly no one has really prodded either side enough to know about what offers here were and how much Dmo is looking for .

    Like a lot of people I've naturally come to the conclusion that his agent is being an idiot , but I don't know jack about what Dmo wants .
     

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