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DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    I just don't feel the need to argue with those who still don't get it. It's pointless and it would go on forever. It's absolutely not worth it.
     
  2. dharocks

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    You've yet to provide any coherent arguments today.

    The bottom line is D-Mo has 2037 career minutes of good production under his belt (2014-15), and 2037 minutes of below average-to-bad production (2012-2014, 2015-16).

    In half of his career minutes he's a 27% 3PT shooter. In half of his career minutes he's been a poor-to-very-poor defensive player. In ALL of his career minutes, he's struggled to defend at the 5.

    He is a good interior passer and a good isolation post scorer, the latter being a skill that we really don't need in this offense. He's not a dominant roll man. He's never been great at moving his feet when defending in space. He was a very good rim protector for about a two month stretch in his 'career year'. He's 26, and unlikely to get much better than he currently is at his best.

    Given his back injury and a seriously spotty track record of productivity, D-Mo's not worth more than $5-7MM/yr. If he were, he'd have signed an offer sheet by now.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Probably because I'm not going to argue the point with people who don't get it anymore. I will have a discussion with those who do get it, and there's really no need for argument among that group. The former Jones fans that still question DMo's value.....well I just have nothing to say to them. They are entitled to their opinion, but nothing will help if they haven't figured it out by now.
     
  4. JJWhat?

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    You're saying DMo is not worth more than Corey Brewer.
     
  5. dharocks

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    Translation: The thread isn't an echo chamber of people who agree with all of my idiotic claims, so I'm going to take my ball and go home.
     
  6. dharocks

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    No reason to compound one bad contract decision with another.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    If that's what you took from that comment, you're just proving that I was right to not bother engaging. Have a good day.
     
  8. Vivi

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    Lol, as soon as i saw four new pages i was certain to find news about the situation :D
     
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  9. dharocks

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    LMAO. There's literally nothing else to take from it when the best you can come up with is "you just don't GET it". We're not talking about string theory, we're discussing a middling PF who's been a below-average NBA player for half of his career. We're thin at the 4 with some injury prone guys, so we could use D-Mo. But for all of the reasons I've already stated, the man is not worth overpaying. I 'get' that. Many posters here 'get' that. Morey 'gets' that. EVERY SINGLE GM IN THE NBA 'GETS' THAT.
     
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  10. heypartner

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    btw: this is too simplistic.

    It was not so much he had to outbid the Bulls (as they were handcuffed); he first had to outbid the rest of the league who was bidding on Asik. (Asik actually showed up in the playoffs.) This DMo thread seems to forget that most quality free agents have several suitors. Because of needing to outbid the league, intangibles like starting, and selling him on Houston (pre-Harden no less), come into play. So, it wasn't just a math game of knowing he could poison pill the Bulls, he had to outbid others and win over Asik and his agent, as well.

    That's why we most often fail. Like with Bazemore, when we apparently outbid Atlanta by a few million, but Baze still turned us down.

    So, that 3yr/$25m for Asik wasn't just the $1 over what Bulls could pay type of situation.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, but that's in line with what I was saying. Morey payed what he did because that's what it took. With DMo's situation, if he could get him for the QO, that would be a hell of a win so he wouldn't want to offer any more unless he had to. With DMo's RFA rights, there was no risk to just sticking with the QO as the offer because if DMo signed an offer sheet elsewhere, Morey could simply match it with no threat of losing the player. That's why the two situations are different.
     
  12. Htownballer38

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    Dmo's defense and rebounding is no match to Capela's.
    Dmo's health is still in question. It's not a guarantee that he will stay healthy either.

    So it would be in the Rockets best interest to trade for a quality back up Center/Power Forward. Since you think we are weak in that area.
     
  13. chenjy9

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    The real question is why are you wasting precious oxygen arguing with someone like him?
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Actually you are guessing that is what the league thinks and you very well may be right, or they think that the Rockets will match, so why bother?

    I do think he has to prove his back is ok, but I also know that he had very minor surgery and many players have had similar procedures and are fine, Dekker and Anderson on the current team - for example.

    I don't think anyone is delusional, we all agree that if healthy he is a valuable contributor.

    I personally believe that the RFA part is more to do with where we are than anything else....and yes, I do think his back is a factor - but not as much as some folks do - I think he proved he was getting BACK to his old self when he got consistent minutes.

    I believe that DHoward being healthy hurt those minutes last year - and DMo has always needed time to slow down on the court, he had his ups and downs last year but I saw enough to think he will be fine once he gets more consistent playing time.

    DD
     
  15. Smacktle

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    The Dmo circle jerk continues.

    Dmo please sign already! HELP END THIS MADNESS!
     
  16. craguin

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    I wonder about the amount of time he is spending in Vancouver, coupled with the quick trip in late August to Los Angeles (a follow-up visit with Dr. Robert Watkins perhaps?).
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  17. xiki

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    IMO DMo is MORE of a bargain 2/16 than 1/4. Control remains.
     
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  18. malakas

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    Capela can't defend the PNR well. Sure DMO's health is in question.
    Sure it would be great to trade for a quality backup. To get someone you also have to give someone. Which asset are you willing to give up in a trade to receive a quality backup? We are not exactly brimming with assets atm. That's why resigning DMO on the cheap without giving up anything would be the best.
    But going into the season with such a frontline as right now it's ridiculous. For Nene and Rhyno missing 10-15 games each is normal.
     
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  19. Htownballer38

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    Dmo couldn't defend the PnR well either last season. And knowing back injuries could be tricky, it's a good chance he won't ever defend or move like he moved for that short stretch.

    If Dmo and his agent wanted a cheap contract, they would have been signed. Broke back mountain wants to be paid big time. Thus the reason why he's still holding out. And we all know Les is not about to go over luxury tax if this team is not contender ready.

    How many games have Dmo played in the last two seasons? I see you are hung up on the fact that Anderson and Nene has some lengthy injury history's.

    I'm pretty sure the front office knows this already. Morey will make a few moves to acquire some much needed depth at those positions.
     
  20. Snow Villiers

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    Well said Malakas. Capela isn't ready yet for heavy minutes.
     

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