DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Man I wish we had that version of Asik on this team.

 

I don't expect either of them - they are both emotional posers atm.

DD

 

And I was tired of the whole situation only to come here and be entertained by grown men arguing like little kids.


Anyway the bad news for DMO is that right now there is a plethora of Centers an Pfs available for trades. Kings, Bucks, Wizards, Magic, Denver 76ers and Suns at least, have made some of their big men available.
The good news is that the more preseason games we play the more it becomes obvious that DMO is needed and how weak our frontline is.

 

Yeah YOLO is a joke and Mr. Motiejunas called me Pro Lithuania, whatever that means.

 

oh please

it's Mr. his back is fine once again. Going on 2 years now.

 

another person trying to be cool behind a computer. ok

 

What?

Our front court is not weak. Where in the world did you conjure that up from ma'am?

 

That was my point though. If you judged Asik based on his per game stat line, you'd think that was a bad deal by Morey and you'd be surprised when he ended up being worth it. That's what some are doing with DMo, you can't just go on per game stat line, you have to look more deeply than that.

 

I don't hate him at all. But I know what he is -- a taller Andrew Nicholson with troubling back issues. A role-player who was useful two years ago before he got hurt, and whose future value is totally in question. And guess what: That's how the rest of the league seems to view him as well, given the ZERO offers he's received thus far. Perhaps you're so invested in him that it seems like there's something personal there, but despite having a realistic assessment of what D-Mo is, I have nothing against him.

His delusional fanboys? Sure, some of them I could do without.

 

On the fact Capela and Harrell have shown themselves completely not reliable and ready to do anything against starters.
If you are relying on Rhyno and Nene who are both very injury prone you are asking for trouble. The regular season is very long.

 

Definitely this. probably the #1 thing that brings this board down in regards to how delusional they are with him without realistic expectations. how long have we talked about the same thing over and over for years now. And now look at where we are.

 

And my point is that your Asik example of course means Morey knows the value of DMo, too. So telling ppl not to look at DMo stats because Asik's weren't great is moot, when both examples are in the Morey universe of contract negotiations. Your point says Morey is skilled at looking above and beyond the boxscore stats, yet in a world of DMo not getting Asik offers from Morey.

 

Agree. Harrell sucks and Capela will be borderline unplayable in some games.

 

I think Morey knows DMo's value too, I just don't think he wants to pay more than he has to for it. It's also clear to me that a lot of Rockets fans apparently don't know DMo's value, and those were who I was really speaking to. I have no doubt that Morey knows.

In Asik's situation, Morey paid what he had to in order to get him away from the Bulls so it's not an apples to apples comparison. With DMo, he's a restricted FA and Morey holds his rights so it's very much different.

He wouldn't be a good GM if he was paying more than he has to, so it was smart to try and get him to stay for the QO

 

Very different situations. Morey ofcourse should take advantage as much as he can and NOT pay the right value but as low as possible. This is the job of a good GM. This isn't a charity.
With Asik he couldn't because the Rockets didn't have the bird rights. Now we do and he is taking advantage of the fact along with the current market situation with so many Cs FAs in the summer and now so many available for trades.

 

@malakas, @Bobbythegreat
I know Asik and DMo RFA situations are different. I was referring to Bobbythegreat trying to make some point of any kind by pointing out their similar stats. There is no point there, at all.

This comment means nothing
"[Reply to DMo's stats] Omer Asik averaged 3/5 before Morey paid him.....maybe there are better ways to judge players. Maybe."​

The only point possible you can make from comparing DMo's stats to Asik's stats is to say Morey knows how to see beyond boxscore stats. No other valid connection can be made between the two situations.

Thus, I dismiss the point of comparing them altogether. No need to tell me how they are incomparable. That was my point.

Cheers

 

I wasn't speaking to Morey, I was speaking to a Rockets fan that was basing their evaluation of DMo on his per game stat line. I was making the point that per game stat line isn't really the best way to evaluate players especially when they played less than 15 minutes a game.

I have no doubt that Morey knows better than that fan I was talking to, so I'm not sure why he's even being mentioned.

If by now people still can't see the value that DMo can bring a team then there's no point in having a conversation about it. Understanding that is sort of a prerequisite to entering in that kind of conversation.

 

None of us know what value he can bring to the team, because his track record consists of one strong season that ended in a serious back injury, the lingering effects of which tanked a midseason trade.

As for the per game state line of 6.2ppg/2.9rpg, do you honestly think that advanced analytics will somehow reveal that he was awesome last year, despite the fact that he was only good/healthy enough to get 15mpg? He was bad last year! This isn't something that can be disputed!

I'm concerned about what he WILL bring to the team, not what he CAN. And that's in serious doubt. Because he recently suffered a serious back injury, and he was not good when he came back from it.

 

If by now people still can't see the value that DMo can bring a team then there's no point in having a conversation about it. Understanding that is sort of a prerequisite to entering in that kind of conversation.

Perhaps we should talk about something else.

 

He doesn't bring much value if he plays like he did last year. This isn't a point one can argue, so it's not surprising that you won't even attempt to.