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Harden vs Klay

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by daywalker02, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    so you would been pefectly fine if we rolled out this year with mchale or jbb and their system with same roster as long has harden steps up correct?
     
  2. HardenTime

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    It wasn't a system. It was James Harden being the best pick and roll guard this side of Steve nash. It was harden isos. Harden scoring 40 a night. That's not a system that's a superstar carrying mediocre players. If James Harden were in the eastern conference he would have a few eastern conference finals. We beat toronto twice last year and snapped Boston home court winning streak because of harden being a playmaker and running pick and rolls with capela. Harden might be the best pick and roll guard of all time, and he is deadly in isolation. Plus he can make passes that very few can

    The topic is about how klay is better than harden. And not only is he not better it's not close
     
  3. YOLO

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    is that what this discussion was about? no. I pointed out every single team has a system and nothing about preference
     
  4. HardenTime

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    It wasn't a system. It was James Harden being the best pick and roll guard this side of Steve nash. It was harden isos. Harden scoring 40 a night. That's not a system that's a superstar carrying mediocre players. If James Harden were in the eastern conference he would have a few eastern conference finals. We beat toronto twice last year and snapped Boston home court winning streak because of harden being a playmaker and running pick and rolls with capela. Harden might be the best pick and roll guard of all time, and he is deadly in isolation. Plus he can make passes that very few can

    The topic is about how klay is better than harden. And not only is he not better it's not close
    Harden finally is playing in a system for the first time with dantoni. I betcha Harden post a PER in the 30s this year
     
  5. YOLO

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    No it's a system. And as it seems it's a little difficult for you to understand that.

    But hey Harden does everything and is the best. There was no system. Carry on
     
  6. Htownballer38

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    Neither player is overrated.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    This season and next two seasons will boil down to those things

    Can MDA utilize James Harden and the whole team to have real success in the postseason?

    Will James listen to his coaches and be that guy for this team.

    We all know that Harden is a hero type but is this Heroball going to win? Can he be the best guy and an improved team guy?

    Stay tuned, folks. There is going to be lot of contents under MDA and Leslie Alexand(ra)er.
     
  8. HardenTime

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    no Klay is def overrated, i'll throw draymon in that mix too
     
  9. HardenTime

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    dude michael jordan was a hero type of player, kobe bryant was extreme and hard to coach but has 3 rings.. their is nothing wrong with being an alpha on the court. Klay thompson leading this team would us in the lottery especially in the southwest divison
     
  10. YOLO

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    yeah the best shooter outside of steph who can drop 37 in one quarter is definitely overrated. A pf who can do a little bit of everything offensively while being able to play C and lockdown on D, where there is nobody else in the league like him is definitely overrated. Yup. it's just hilarious how you have to bring other players down and not acknowledge good players just to try and make a case for someone else.
     
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    Klay is good but he isn't on Hardens level.

    Devin Booker = Klay
     
  12. napalm06

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    That's not an opinion I can contend with, but I will encourage you to watch how much ESPN covers Klay and Curry this year.

    ESPN treats every Warriors warm-up shootaround with more analysis and coverage than the NHL Stanley Cup finals.
     
  13. Htownballer38

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    This is exactly what he is doing. He post a video of Harden dropping 40 but forgot that Klay dropped 37 in a quarter. Green is a freaking beast so how is he overrated.

    I'm a big time Harden fan to but Ole buddy is way over the top with his love for Harden.

    This dude is the King of Hyperbole
     
  14. napalm06

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    Klay, Draymond, and even Curry are overrated my friend.
    People have trouble having realistic conversations about Klay, Steph, and Draymond because of this very phenomenon.

    "Overrated" in no way means "not a good player". All three are great players, stars.
    It just means their failures are glossed over, their weaknesses are never acknowledged, and as a result the fan image of them doesn't align with their actual value if you were to put them in a different situation.

    They're viewed through a perspective that they wouldn't get if they were in Milwaukee, Charlotte, or .... Houston.

    Basketball is a game of synergy, and the current Warriors are one of the greatest assembled rosters that we've seen.
    It's still a crime that Harden didn't get more love for what he accomplished on a truly flawed roster a couple seasons ago.
     
  15. Htownballer38

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    Booker is nowhere close to Klay.

    Stop it
     
  16. RasaqBoi

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    you're right......... at the level Booker is going he will surpass Thompson.

    Booker will be a top 10 player in a few years.
     
  17. J Sizzle

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    So judging by this statement, I assume this is something that happens often? Does Klay do this on a consistent basis?
     
  18. YOLO

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    IMO they are not my friend. who cares how they would look on another team. this point of bringing up well they wouldn't do this or that in that situation is comical. These guys are all proven winners and won a title together. That's the ultimate goal in this game. People's agendas on how they are individually bears little to me. Everyone has there own ideology on how they would build a team. The core was drafted and learned how to play together as a team to win. People faulting that because they learned how to play within one another from day 1 makes absolutely not sense. Of course they have faults every single player does.
     
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  19. daywalker02

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    I am also thinking Kobe and MJ were much better in their primes.

    Nothing wrong, but Harden is not top assassin and not the best point guard in a shooting guards body, he is just a very good hybrid.
     
  20. YOLO

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    him exploding in any given game at any time? yeah I'd say so. Klay can drop 30 in any given game just like any other established scorer in the league. Just because he does it in other ways besides ISO isn't a fault to him.
     
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