This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

Blaming Hopkins for Osweiler playing like crap has to be one of the dumbest arguments ever. Thankfully only one person holds that view.

Weve just had 3 years of crappy QB play. Year 4....still crap.

But we shouldn't complain.

 

The ball was tipped because Nuk tried to catch a bad pass.

Would you rather a non-attempt?

You didn't have a problem not expecting Hoyer to be elite, but what happened.... you bothered PLENTY to talk about it.

Dude, just be fair. There's definitely a HUGE agenda going down with you... lmao

 

You didn't have a problem not expecting Hoyer to be elite, but what happened.... you talked PLENTY about it.

Dude, just be fair. There's definitely a HUGE agenda going down with you... lmao[/QUOTE]

A non attempt leads to an incomplete pass, a half ass attempt throwing the ball into the arms of a DB was not a better option. Nuk turned an incomplete pass into an interception and there's no other way to look at it. If you can't see what is blatantly obvious, that's on you. I expect that kind of nonsense from Mr. Clutch because he's shown on many occasions that he knows nothing at all about sports... but I'd hope that everyone else would be better than that.

 

So much hindsight and silliness in this post

Consider.... "If Oz just throws it away instead of attempting a bad pass, there's zero chance for a INT."

Did I do it right?


Funny thing is, Brock had an additional option.... throwing an accurate pass.

I'm not going to continue this silly argument, for now at least. Hopefully the Texans show well in MIN.

 

It wasn't a bad decision to throw though, just not accurate enough.....which wouldn't have been a problem if Nuk hadn't tipped it right into the defender's hands.

Anyway, it's cool if this goes over your head, feel free to just look at the stat line without considering how things happened.

 

3-1 isnt sucking. I dont believe anyone here has said the Texans suck, unless theyre just trolling...but until we can prove to beat a good team and not barely get by at home against the Titans (who you repeatedly mentioned are a horrible NFL team)...then we are nothing but mediocre. 3-1 is good without context...but when you actually see how we've played and how we've won/lost, this team is a mediocre football team until they can show otherwise.

 

You said Nuk was 100% responsible for the pick...when Oz could have taken a sack, thrown it away, or god forbid, made an accurate throw.

 

You realize like 3 of Hoyer's passes were tipped and intercepted, right? That means he really threw 19 TDs and 4 INTs...that's actually pretty awesome.

 

This team will never win anything with DeAndre Hopkins throwing interceptions!

 

Hindsight? Like the people complaining we didn't take Derek Carr, Prescott, Bridgewater..... Hindsight is so silly.

 

Hasn't ever? He posted two 100+ QB ratings last year, one against an elite defense (Cincinnati), and threw what looked like the winning TD in New England *during prime time* (before the Pats tied it with no time left).

In terms of the contract... by continually mentioning and ragging on it, you demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding about the NFL. QB is the highest profile position and by extension, the best-paid. The history of the league is littered with big contracts being handed out to unproven arms with potential. Heck, the Texans dealt for Schaub and immediately gave him a 6/$48MM contract extension. This is how the league has always worked.

So stop mentioning his contract until you at least acknowledge that finding a young QB with NFL starting experience/success is - and always has been - expensive.

Yes; guys who have absolutely never shown anything in the NFL.

They're 3-1...

 

For the season he was average at best. And he was benched for the corpse of Peyton Manning.

You can't win in this league overpaying guys. There's a salary cap. Schaub lived up to the contract. Will Osweiller? So far doesn't look like it.

I mean, you just said the Patriots win because Brady is underpaid and they hoard draft picks. Then you defend the exact opposite strategy the Texans are using.

Unless you go through the draft.

They've shown more this year and don't cost $37 million guaranteed.

They suck on offense.

 

I'll give Brock this year with Bob and his system before I'll make a decision if he's the right fit or if we over-payed.

This sub forum = basically an unreadable depression forum. Who can be sadder?? Race to the bottom!!

 

Weird response

Was speaking on Brock's first INT vs TEN. Complete hindsight to blame Hopkins, and a foolish claim to begin with..


I've already stated not blaming Texans for bypassing Derek..

 

Double post

 

Funny enough. Most of this can be said about Sam Bradford and the Vikings. QB was average at best last season for a different team, is overpaid, sucks on offense.

 

I thought the draft pick cost was high, never argued that was a great deal one way or the other. But Bradford has shown more and he got $22m guaranteed with cap hits of $7m and $17m. I'm not exactly sure how much of that Minn is on the hook for.

 

But that's not what you said; you said he "hasn't ever shown he's been very good" and that's simply not true. And you know, as well as I do, the ramifications around Manning returning; don't pretend that had anything to do with Osweiler's performance, which was decidedly better than Peyton's.

Brock threw more TDs (despite playing in two fewer games), significantly fewer INTs (by pace/%); higher YPA, more yards per game and a higher QB rating.

Did you determine Schaub had lived up to his contract after his fourth start in 2007?

And, yes - you *can* win in this league overpaying guys. Or are you under some delusional assumption that successful teams aren't paying players above market value?

You're going to find QBs with "NFL starting experience/success" through the draft, are you?... That's interesting...

Suck is a pretty strong term; while they haven't been consistently good, they've shown enough flashes that an expectation of improvement isn't totally unfounded.

 

His contract was for 2 years $35. You can't ignore the signing bonus. And that first round draft pick is major for a QB who isn't known to stay healthy for a full season. And it's not like he was spectacular when he was healthy.

 

He was also turnover prone, as we can clearly see here in Houston. He just wasn't trusted....just like he wasn't trusted by B'Ob against New England.

Well, yes. 3 of the first 4 games he had over a 100 QBRating. Of course you don't know until it's played out, just saying Brock isn't looking good. And also I doubt his contract was as high as Brock's (relative to the league's salary cap at the time).

Yes, every team will have some overpaid guys. The best teams limit those contracts.

Well, you said Brock is essentially a rookie, so I don't see how he's a better solution.

It's a strong term, but fair given the performance.