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Harden vs Klay

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by daywalker02, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. ricardo1979

    ricardo1979 Member

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    It's clear you have an agenda dude. You keep moving the posts to fit you're sill argument. Just stop it.
     
  2. ricardo1979

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    It's clear you have an agenda dude. You keep moving the posts to fit you're silly argument. Just stop it. It is clear you seriously have an agenda and a dislike for Harden.
     
  3. Htownballer38

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    You can best believe Klays shooting scares a lot of teams. He might not have some of Harden's tools in the toolbox but the ones he does have is very lethal.
     
  4. Htownballer38

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    You can best believe Klays shooting scares a lot of teams. He might not have some of Harden's tools in the toolbox but the ones he does have is very lethal.
    You've been saying this for quite some time now. Again nobody knows that because there is no way you can figure that out. You can throw LeBron and maybe Wade on this Rockets team and have a successful season. But nobody really know that for sure. So can we stop asking that question. It really doesn't make any sense whatsoever
     
  5. HardenTime

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    Dude James Harden has intangibles through the roof, he made the NBA Finals before Klay and been to numerous western confernce finals with the Rockets and Thunder and was arguably a more productive 3rd option than Klay is 2nd option.

    Klay is not a MVP caliber player, James Harden is. Before Harden got to Houston the rockets had missed the playoffs 3 straight years, since he arrived 4 straight. In Fact unlike Klay, James Harden has never missed the playoffs in his career.. what are we arguing here

    Because so many warrior nuthuggers work at espn, bleacher report, nbc sports. And they have an affinty for Klay, they want him be the best. They want to go around saying, best backcourt ever" which means steph and klay are the best pg and sg in the league, sorry the stats and numbers say otherwise


    You put Klay on this team and get rid of Harden, who is our playmaker. Harden can do everything Klay can do, Klay can not do everything Harden can its as simple as that
     
  6. HardenTime

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    If Klay was the lead dog and not having over 70% of his field goals assisted then i would be worried, klay cant create his own shot. He needs picks and screens, at best he could be a better version of richard hamilton, or mike miller. Mike Miller had some good years on the grizzlies as the lead dog, but they didnt win nothing. Klay is streay and not effecienct, his defense is overrated. I mean what are we arguing here

    Give me Gordon Hayward over Klay Thompson, at least he gets to the line
     
  7. Htownballer38

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    Dude that's you and your alone. Actual NBA teams beg to differ because this man can flat out shoot the ball. He also can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim.

    You are the one being argumentative and for what. It seems as if you just don't like the player or the fact that he's being compared to Harden.

    Both players are top 5 SG's in the NBA. And Klay defense is not overrated.
     
  8. HardenTime

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    James Harden as a 3rd option, arguably could have been an all-star this year.. AS A DAMN 6TH MAN

    at 3:44 of the video, isnt that what you harden haters claim harden cant do, PLAY OFF THE BALL. Harden gets a pick from Nick Collison and drills a corner 3.

    40 points in 28 minutes, could have scored 50 but instead passed of after getting double teammed.. harden was getting double teammed as a 3rd option with durant and westbrook on the court. First of all that shows how deep okc was, and secondly it shows you what other teams thought of Hardens skill level
     
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  9. J Sizzle

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    1) There was no "system" of McHale or Bickerstaff. They were both very bad coaches. The team was not coached properly. That was obvious to anybody with eyes.

    2) "Making teammates better at everything" is a popular myth that gets circulated, but is silly nonetheless. Make the game EASIER for others? Sure. And Harden does that. But how is Harden supposed to make teammates set proper screen and rolls (Dwight), or magically make players hit the open shots Harden sets up for them (everybody) or not forget how to play basketball (Lawson)? Defensively...Harden should set the tone, but he's not responsible for the career worst years of many of the rotation players last season.

    3) As for leadership, sure Harden needs to do better. I think he will, as has been shown this offseason. We'll see what happens. But nobody is confusing Klay Thompson for being a leader.
     
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  10. HardenTime

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    klay has no handles, he has no first step, everything he does is off picks, and curls. nba scouts compared klay as a prospect to kevin martin, mike miller.. basically streaky 3 point shooters. I happen to think Klay could be a healthy Peja( remmeber peja finised 2nd in mvp voting to kg in 2004)

    But Harden is comparable to Roy, Kobe, Ginobili.. its totally different

    and yes all three of those guards i named had pg skills unlike klay
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    lebron for sure

    but wade? your bball IQ is a joke!!!
     
  12. HardenTime

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    Klay's defense is def overrated. where is he in blocks, steals... GASP look at this, James Harden the "shaqtin a fool mvp", averaged more rebounds, steals, and BLOCKS than LOCKDOWN DEFENDER klay thompson
     
  13. Htownballer38

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    Keep your wise cracks to your damn self. Go back and look at Wade in his earlier years and you would see how similar their games are.

    People on here always talking about bball iq like they are some type of expert. Probably never played organized ball in your life. And if you did you probably was a bench player who only got in during blowouts.

    Haha bball IQ
     
  14. YOLO

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    every single team in the league has there own system. just because last season didn't go as planned doesn't mean a system wasn't in place. it was the same system the rockets used when they got to the WCF.
     
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    You might want to tell all the actual experts this right here because all of them are saying Klay is a darn good defender.
     
  16. Htownballer38

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    Yolo exactly but Mr. Bball IQ knows it all so hes not going to agree.
     
  17. HardenTime

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    No we got the 2nd seed and made the wcf because James Harden was insane all year. We had frigging joey dorsey as our starting center while dwight played only 41 games. Any other player besides Harden that does all that he did in 2015 is mvp of the league.. no questions asked, the harden hate is real. Harden was 2nd behind Lebron in playoff PER, and finished first in regular season win shares
     
  18. YOLO

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    and all that happened within a system whether you want to believe so or not. You apparently can give all the credit in the world to harden when the results are + yet he gets none of it when the team struggles. yeah that makes no sense. no idea why you brought up harden hate here when nothing was said here regarding him
     
  19. HardenTime

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    These same analysts also thought curry was better than jordan till LeBron came and shut that **** down. When will you harden haters understand the media whether it's tnt, espn, bleaCher report, tyt sports are all warriors nuthuggers. These analyst picked the pelicans to make the playoffs last year simply because of alvin gentry being an assistant to Steve kerr. Now watch luke Walton crash and burn with the Lakers

    The warriors think they are bigger than the nba. And the media allows them to play free of critism. All of a sudden your getting your ass kicked in the finals and the wife of the 2x mvp claims the nba is rigged. Like wtf your husband was gifted the mvp over a more deserving harden the same way in 2011 rose was given mvp over lebron
     
  20. napalm06

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    Klay is a great positional defender and a guy you'd love to have on your team.

    The problem with player vs player arguments like this is that everyone resorts to hyperbole.

    But the honest fact remains that Klay is overrated at this point in time, and Harden is not.

    This argument will never resolve itself to the satisfaction of Klay fans until we see Klay play on an average NBA team again. At that point, he will more resemble 12-13 Klay Thompson (a fantastic #2/#3 player) than 15-16 Klay Thompson (a fantastic #2/#3 player wrapped up into a media narrative of glory and over-exposure, benefiting from being on a superstar team the likes of which the NBA has rarely seen).

    Right now Klay is experiencing all of the benefits of the Scottie Pippen effect.
     
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