DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

For all Rhyno's shot making, DMo is the only big on this roster who can create offense and require a double team when he gets his low post game going. DoMo is also a better boxer out

So we shouldn't penny pinch.

 

If D'Antoni asked DM to pay more I expect he would. His value has been set. If you're so certain his value on the court has been determined as being higher than 4.4 mil, what's your explanation for him getting zero offer sheets?

 

Bad comparison. Cleveland offered Tristan 5yrs and $80m from day one. Morey offered something higher than the QO early as well. Both Tristan and DMo decided to go shopping. Tristan ended up signing for 5yrs and $82m, a negligible amount above what Cleveland first offered.

Tristan failed to get any better offers. If that is what BJ is trying to get, then history shows that Cleveland never upped their original offer, and Tristan gave up on Oct. 20th and signed for what they wanted.

 

That's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. You're comparing two guys who were borderline All-Star caliber players at their peaks when healthy with a guy who has had one competent season as an NBA rotational player. With those guys, there's a much better chance that they'll repeat that production.

 

Anderson, Gordon, and Thompson have demonstrated worth over and over again. That mitigates the injury history with RA and EG. TT was a terrible analogy all around.

D-Mo doesn't have history to fall back on. He can't say, "When my back is healthy I have a steady history as a contributor" because we've had him 3 or 4 years and he's only looked special for a series of months more than a season ago.

That is why there are zero offer sheets.

That is why the trade was rescinded.

That is why DM isn't going to offer D-Mo more than any other team is willing to pay.

You and basketballholic (BTW how do 2 guys agree on every single thing? I'm not buying it) feel one way and keep telling everyone else that we're somehow naive for not knowing the TRUTH that you two (one?) guys know but none of 30 GM's do.

 

Thanks for the flashback. Welcome to 20 pages ago.

 

I think it's in the best interest of both DMo and the Rockets to get something done. But the Rockets don't have serious title aspirations this season anyway, so if you're Morey and Les, why overspend on a guy who isn't going to make you a contender this year and isn't likely to stay healthy anyway? I want DMo on the team, and I believe in his potential when he stays on the court, but I won't fault them if they let him walk for more money or refuse to agree to his agent's terms. Considering his injury history, the qualifying offer was a fair deal, and I don't think he's worth more than that right now. If he were, he would have signed an offer sheet with another team by now.

 

Serviceable player, but nothing special. Certainly not worth eliminating your flexibility to sign another max player next offseason (assuming you can dump Brewer / McDaniels, etc.)

I suspect he will eventually cave and take their two year offer, with the 2nd non guaranteed.

 

The hot gf rule, both deserve to stay because of it.

 

To start the season:

Harden
Ryno
Ariza
Gordon
Beverley
Capela
Nene
Brewer

are probably the guys that will see the majority of minutes. KJ will fill in when we need defensive wing help, and Harrell for when we need more bulk at the four. Looking at this rotation, it still seems really evident to me that we could use help from DMo, and that we haven't moved on without him yet. There's a great rotational spot for him to take up as the 2nd-3rd guy off the bench, minutes to be had to make sure we never ever see Harrell trying to take a jumper or shoot a free throw.

Everyone else on the team is just there for redundancy's sake, with full knowledge that we will probably have to deal with injuries throughout the year. This will be an issue particularly at PG and PF, so look for extra depth in those areas. Maybe Wiltjer is our contingency in case DMo bolts for Europe.

 

Isn't it getting a little late in the preseason for both sides? I can't understand why a deal can't be made.

 

Except D'Antoni doesn't post up. Wonder how he wants to use him.

 

The teams that had cap space on July 20th are the same ones that continue to have cap space today.


Cap space numbers per Spotrac
Brooklyn: $17,194,363
Denver: $15,357,278
Minnesota: $13,331,554 [max - renounce rights to Tayshaun Prince and Othyus Jeffers]
Philadelphia: $19,290,799
Phoenix: $13,242,017
Utah: $11,781,904 [increased after waiving Kendall Marshall's NG contract post trade]


Don't forget J.R. Smith (unrestricted) is still looking for an offer:
"The Cavs' offer to Smith was somewhere between $10 million and $11 million annually, and Smith rejected it."

 

Like another poster said, DMo needs to fire his agent and get into training camp ASAP. He may have great potential, but he has great risk also. He hasn't earned his huge contract yet based on what many posters have already said. If he won't bet on himself with a 1 year qualifying offer to prove himself, I don't know why he expects Morey and the Rockets to gamble on him with their money when no other team is offering him anything. I think he is hurting his chances long term because he will be behind in the system and game conditioning, and therefore may not get the playing time to prove himself once he does except a low offer, not to mention that even though it's just business, this holdout won't look good to other teams imho. No other team is going to magically all of a sudden offer him a long huge contract. He has to prove himself on the court first.

 

DMo needs to play on the one year contract and prove his worth this year by having an impact and staying off the injured list. His value is obviously not what he nor his agent assumed it would be and anybody that argues that is not being objective. Every team in the NBA had an opportunity to make him a contractual offer and at this point, only the Rockets have tendered anything to him. This during a summer when scrubs were getting astronomical contracts and every team had additional cap space. Don't give me that crap about him being restricted because there were plenty of restricted guys that offers were made to. Not one single team rolled the dice on this guy. He has a lot to prove and he needs to get his butt into camp and start proving it and then he will get the payday he feels he is entitled to.

 

Ah man. You went from SUPER role player, to "just" a SUPER smart player. Lin was SUPER smart too. And Mike Harris went to Rice.

Now I'm depressed.

 

I actually find it really funny people are trying to compare D-Mo to Ego and Ryno and before, Howard. It just makes zero sense. D-Mo had one good partial year before he was injured and looked like crap coming back. All three players had better seasons coming back from injury than D-Mo's best season before the injury. All of them showed that they can sustain solid levels of performance after coming back from bad injuries before they got their next big contract unlike D-Mo who, again, looked like crap coming back. I am not saying this isn't unexpected, as back injuries take time to recover from. The point that should never, ever remain lost however, is that D-Mo has not proven anything, especially coming off a serious injury to his core that caused a trade to be rescinded. This alone makes him someone no intelligent GM would take a serious gamble on.

 

DMo had to knock off the rust last year and the inconsistent playing time from an inept coaching staff did not help.

However, this is just negotiations, the longer it goes the more likely teams situations change and DMo gets an offer, if not he can sign in March for the vet minimum and be an UFA next year.

Maybe DMo doesn't want to be in Houston anymore after the trade last year, none of us know.

He is making ALL the decisions BJ isn't, so whatever is going on is driven by DMo himself, and it is his career his prerogative.

DD

 

When people can stop thinking in black & white, they become useful.