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DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    I am not sure to be honest on the 2yr/NG. I actually forgot GSW rescinded Ezeli. That said, I think his injury history hurt his market and in that aspect I think it applies to DMo.
     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    Looking at our roster right now, Dmo back would be really nice.

    I like Wiljiter plenty but thinking he's replacing Dmo after a couple of preseason games is silly. I also don't have confidence in Harrell or Dekker to replace his production either. All 3 have the potential to earn a rotation spot but I certainly wouldn't rely on it with our season hanging in the balance.

    Also with Anderson and Nene being injury prone the depth he would bring is much needed (even though he's injury prone his self).
     
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    That's why I'm fairly certain they eventually get a deal done. It just doesn't make sense to not bring him back.
     
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    What production exactly,I mean yall acting as if this man was lighting up the league for years. And I surely you are not saying he was a defensive juggernaut when healthy either.
     
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  5. DaDakota

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    He was a very solid rim protector, played very sound defense at the C position particularly. He is just a SUPER smart player - who is a willing passer, and a good shooter, a nice role player to have on your team.

    This is all negotiation, I find it hilarious when people are saying he should accept X, or Y, or Z.....I did think he would take the QO, but holding out is a negotiation ploy and the landscape will change across the league, probably to his benefit....so, we wait.

    DD
     
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    Very well said DD. Also a player of his caliber with his offensive skill set is very valuable once the game slows down.
     
  7. Htownballer38

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    But yet he is still unemployed DD so please explain to me why haven't a team picked him up when they were dishing out big time money to just about anybody.
     
  8. DrNuegebauer

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    Just to bring a dose of realism:

    In 2014/15 he had a 1.01 points per shot on post possessions (13th in the league)
    2015/16 he was at 0.84 - which is terrible (D12 0.90 TJones 0.86)

    People claiming an elite skill set here might be drunk? High? He certainly had a good year in 2014/15, and was outstanding defensively in November of that season. But his defence regressed as that season wore on (badly), and he was an offensive liability last season. I realise he is coming back from injuries, but he played worse than Smoove and TJones last year.

    What is DMo at this stage of his career? A 26 year old 'intriguing prospect' due to his ability to play in the post or shoot from outside. However his outside shot is 30.8% over 4 years, and his post game has been above average once in 4 years.
    When you can't rebound or play defence, then you need someone willing to take a flyer on your offensive skills, and invest time into developing you. But when you're 26, people aren't normally overly excited about taking that chance...

    I cannot fathom why he wouldn't take the QO. He needs to be in camp and in the pre-season games showing why he deserve some playing time. Clearly nobody else wants him - what was he thinking?
     
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    Funny that still to this day, it's the former Terrence Jones apologists who bash DMo and fail to see his value.
     
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  10. ThatBoyNick

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    His role-player production. We need another solid big right now and Dmo fits that discription, as well as this teams style very well.

    No I don't think he's a great defender, he was bad last season. When healthy he's proven to be solid enough though.
     
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    Production is an interesting thing . The ability Dmo has , is to produce within the flow of team ball . He is a willing and good passer and he communicates well on defense . He is also 7 feet tall and can play the 4 and the 5 . He has shown scoring skills in the past from range and in the post, it was a small sample size , but the trend was favorable until he got injured . There is reason to believe that if he is healthy that he will be a valuable and productive player . Health is a question mark .

    No one here is saying Dmo is a slam dunk . But at the price it looks like we will be able to get him at , he will be well worth it ; especially since he carries some upside along with the risk . The players in front of him have had injury histories and the the other options at the position are significantly less proven ( even though Dmo isn't that proven himself either )

    We should bring him back , I hope it is sooner rather than later. I think the more practice time he has the better . I can understand why he is holding out . I also think his agent is not the greatest .

    That's my 2 cents
     
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    Sorry, I am neither DD nor able to match his class and style. Just old man ...x...

    Your post could be about JR or Nene or any of the other guys who found the $$$ dried up and they were left either in deals like Nene's or waiting for his ring while waiting for his phone to ring.
     
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    In 2014-15, I recall DMo was fantastic on defense at PF according to the NBA.com stats, but he was pretty bad at center. I can't reference the stats. I was just following them all that year, and they now are combined for the year, showing he was average.
     
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    Yes, this is accurate. He was VERY good defensively that season at PF and then he had to play center a lot more and those numbers dropped significantly. He still sort of held his own out of position, but if you want defense from him, you want him at PF.
     
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    But hasn't the big money dried up now. Teams have paid out big and the well is dry for most/all teams.
    I thought the word was out months ago when big money was being handed out, that Houston would match anyway and it was a case of leaving DMo until last so we could use his rights to avoid the luxury tax but still be over the cap.
    Reminds me of the TT case with the Cava last season.
     
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    The better the team looks without him, the less they will miss him. Dmo better sign up or he may be left out the cold.
     
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    30 out of 30 NBA teams and their GM's agree.

    BJ is just trying to get his own fee up and that isn't going to happen just because he wants it to. He is doing Motiejunas no favors at all. Offer sheets are the metric by which a RFA's value is determined. D-Mo's value therefore is 4.4 million dollars and not a penny more and The Rockets are the only team that have demonstrated they're willing to go that high.
     
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  18. Bobbythegreat

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    We'll see. I wonder if you'd have said the same thing about Tristan Thompson last year. Would you have had him playing for 6.8 mil on a one year deal instead of the 5 year 82 million dollar deal that he got by holding out rather than accepting the QO. Perhaps you thought no one wanted him because he hadn't signed an offer sheet at this time last year.
     
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  19. Batman Jones

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    Tristan Thompson has proven himself and has played nearly 30 minutes a game his whole career. And he hasn't missed a single game in the last five years.

    D-Mo gave us some great months over a year ago and just failed a physical badly enough to rescind a trade.

    Yeah, that's the same thing.
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Injury history didn't stop Ryan Anderson or Eric Gordon from getting contracts did it? When it comes down to arguing DMo's value on the court, I'm not going to get into that, by now either you see it, or you'll never see it. The Rockets head coach sees it and that's why I'm confident a deal will get done eventually.
     

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