1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Feigen] "Capela's stamina is much better than we thought" MDA

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,707
    Who's the poster that lives in Capelas building?

    Take him to Treasures / Men's Club. Stamina will raise.

    Just look at Harden brehh, strip clubs all night....... Steve Nash with a beard during the day.
     
    FTW Rockets FTW likes this.
  2. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,757
    Likes Received:
    22,741
    clint looked noticeably less mobile last nite
     
  3. hvic

    hvic Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2008
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    484
    maybe its because of his weight gain
     
  4. T FOR 3!!!

    T FOR 3!!! Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,041
    Likes Received:
    988
    He looks fine, he just doesn't have great stamina. I've never understood this, but I remember one time talking to the center of my old basketball team and asking him what his top 5 superpowers would be. His number 5 was to never get tired (not to never sleep), but to have unending stamina. This had never even crossed my mind, but he struggled with stamina so bad that it made sense. Some guys struggle with this, but he's a professional athlete. If Yao and Shaq could stay on the court, so can he.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,686
    Likes Received:
    38,947
    Why do they pile on pounds when sometimes being quick is more important.

    I don't recall Kareem Abdul Jabbar being big......

    DD
     
  6. T FOR 3!!!

    T FOR 3!!! Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,041
    Likes Received:
    988
    I think it's a matter of not being too small. Everyone else is big and you have to be able to box those guys.
     
  7. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,865
    Likes Received:
    12,949
    "Capela's stamina is better than we imagined.....boy howdy, he's grrrrrrrrREAT!"

    Translation: Hey, potential trade partner with doubts about Capela's spindly frame, pick up the phone.
     
    malakas likes this.
  8. heypartner

    heypartner Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    63,510
    Likes Received:
    59,001
    I don't recall Jabbar being quick, either. Plus he had a stamina problems going against huge centers like Walton and Lanier.

    Remember what he told Joey.

     
    Shroopy2 and Clutch like this.
  9. tochiee22

    tochiee22 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,063
    Likes Received:
    1,885
    So since y'all wanna trade capela away.. what center can we get in return that's mobile , has extreme stamina and big?????

    I tell ya who, nobody.
    Unless we trade for nerlens Noel
    Or gobert, capela is out center for the season
     
  10. ClutchCity3

    ClutchCity3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,756
    Likes Received:
    382
    I remember Perkins few season ago got bulked and became a useless player. I hope Capela doesn't follow suit..
     
  11. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 1999
    Messages:
    46,616
    Likes Received:
    33,600
    He looked a bit clumsy and a step "off" or behind or something in the Knicks game. Thoughts?
     
  12. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    He does not have a fast, continuously running processor. I'm not picking on the guy. But he's just like so many other players. Has physical gifts but greatness isn't coming because the processor isn't there. When you combine his added bulk with his processor it just isn't there.

    We've already wiffed on Capela. And a lot of it is the fault of the organization. From the beginning with Capela the times when he has looked best have been when he played as as 4 alongside Dwight or Smoove. That was when mentally he didn't have the sole responsibility of locking down the paint and defending the best interior player. He didn't have to process. All he had to do was go find the opposing 4 and lock in on him and then help off or switch appropriately on the perimeter. He had more defensive space to operate in and his length and athleticism were in play as a young baller with no significant bulk. He was a plus difference maker defensively from the start as a 4.

    He has never been a positive difference maker defensively at the 5. Never. His length and athleticism get negated by other bigs who are just as long or longer and who outmuscle him inside. And he's slow to react when opposing perimeter players come at him.

    Capela sees the game better at the 4. And therefore reacts better. And the slow processor doesn't affect him as much unless he gets tied up in a switch and then gets stuck defending in the pick and roll or iso'd up by a small.

    The organization is culpable here because they see him strictly as a center. And hence they've developed him as such, throwing pounds on him and making a big deal about him running the pick and roll. (He's not even very good at doing that. Witness last night.)

    In my humble opinion we should've seen that he works best defensively as a 4. We should have accepted that and tried to equip him offensively with a floor spacing catch-and shoot jumper. And then started teaching him the nuances of pick-and-pop. Yeah, I know that sounds crazy. But centers define themselves defensively. When you get a center that isn't a good defender then you've got serious problems with your team. You're simply not going to win anything. Not in this era of "spread 'em out run pick and roll to death" basketball. When you see that he struggles defensively at the 5 and you understand why (processor), you either make a 4 out of him (if he can develop something offensively) or you trade him after he throws down some dunks and blocks a couple shots into the stands.

    So I put this on the organization mostly. Some things you have to understand you can't change. We couldn't change Terrence's mental approach to the game. We either couldn't or didn't with with him on his jump shot. And then two years into his career we decide to bulk him up and make a power guy out of him. We never changed his mentality. That is basically impossible to do. We should've traded him at his peak trade value. The organization should have recognized his mentality after a year or so.

    Same thing here with Capela. Capela was healthy his rookie season and couldn't crack the rotation. I guarantee you he couldn't keep up mentally. That's why he didn't play. Remember the physical gifts are there. Finally we get stuck with having to play him because all our bigs are down and he shows us something defensively at the 4 alongside an anchor at the 5. From there we extrapolate that since he can run the pick and roll offensively that he needs to be developed as a center. So we go into last season with Capela as the backup 5 after a summer of doing I don't know what with him. He fails in the backup 5 role. Just a defensive sieve. But once again when we put him out there at the 4 our defense, which otherwise sucked, looks respectable. But we go away from the double big lineup because it hurts floor spacing and back to our total crap defense.

    Then we go into this summer with Dwight gone and Capela locked in as a center now desperate to fix his free throw shooting. And that's a flop. Got Lucas working with him pitching up 2500 FTs a week. And he comes out clanking away. That's mental. It's all between the ears. Now it's going to become increasingly obvious that he's got a weakness that is basically impossible to rectify at age 22. He may be "young" but mentality is developed way before 22.

    He doesn't have it between the ears and he's never going to get it. He's just another pedestrian big man now that can't shoot free throws and has very limited capacity to help a team win anything significant. You are witnessing his exposure and the demise of his trade value. We need to move him as soon as possible. His trade value is going down and isn't going to recover. He simply doesn't have it and we have butchered his development by forcing him into a 5 role.
     
  13. malakas

    malakas Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Messages:
    20,167
    Likes Received:
    15,381
    For Centers many "get it" defensively way later than age 22-23. PnR defence can and does improve with experience.
     
  14. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    Yes. It won't distinguish him. He'll just be another functional big at that point. He won't be special.
     
  15. valorita

    valorita Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,101
    Likes Received:
    1,765
    What's concerning is that Cappella's explosiveness and lateral quickness seems to have regressed.
    Interestingly the same reasons Dwight became less effective.
     
  16. Cashmoney

    Cashmoney Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    2,623
    Likes Received:
    804
    I agree wholeheartedly, it's why we should sell the farm for rubio.
     
  17. Chilly_Pete

    Chilly_Pete Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2001
    Messages:
    2,877
    Likes Received:
    2,034
    My Maltese Poodle has a little tank. I have to take him outside every couple of hours.
     
    heypartner likes this.
  18. malakas

    malakas Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Messages:
    20,167
    Likes Received:
    15,381
    Agreed.
    As for your previous post which was very well thought out my disagreement is that it's much more likely that someone with Capella's skillset learns to become an above average defenive C than learn to shoot out of thin air. Not every player can become a shooter when he has never had in his carreer that role before and I would be shocked if Capela became one tbh.
    So it's better to end up with an average C than a disaster of a stretch 4.
     
  19. vstexas09

    vstexas09 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Messages:
    10,165
    Likes Received:
    538
    he shouldn't have put on the weight...
     
  20. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    Understand. That's why I maintain trade him after we get him throwing down a bunch of dunks and blocking a couple shots.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now