How is that really any different than what we have now? Mediocre results after taking over a program that was a bit of a dumpster fire. In his first two years, he was worse than they were under Franchione. First time they had consecutive losing seasons since the 1970's. In his 4th year, he went 6-6 in a Big12 having an extreme down year. In 4 years, he went 25-25 overall. Despite bringing in talent, there were no signs of progress at all and no excitement in the program. It sounds exactly like what Strong is doing now.
I did not remember the yearly records off the top of my head. I just remember some of those historically bad losses Franchione had like the 77-0 favor OU gave them. Then again, Sumlin had one of those 2 years ago. Seems like it really is Aggie tradition to just give up Still, my point is Sherman inherited a way, way worse program than Strong. And he improved the program way, way more than Strong. Those last 6 losses were narrow, come from behind losses. He giftwrapped a great team for Sumlin. No comparison between Strong and Sherman imo. In fact, not only did Sherman not give up 50 points a game, Mack certainly never did it like Strong is. By results, it would be very difficult to argue Strong has even improved this team
By results, it's very hard to argue Sherman improved the team at all either. Maybe they didn't have as many blowouts - but they also had worse records than under the prior coach. There is nothing about the Sherman tenure that was impressive - they still regularly got blown out and looked horrific all the time. The team was no better 4 years later than it was when he took over - it wasn't a turnaround at all. Sumlin went to a much tougher conference and each of his years thus far there have been better than Sherman's best year at A&M. If the Texans hired Sherman, we'd be having all these same conversations in 3 years.
Ye, I know stuff you don't. Franchione might have been better. Sherman had an eye for talent, not much else. Mack Brown would be a better choice for UT.
Dude, you are saying 1) Mack Brown's final years were as bad as Franchione and 2) the preceding coach deserves no credit for a first year coach's success? You're better than that. You realize Mack's last team ended up with a better record than we will likely have. That's with a backup QB? Where would we look without Shane? You also know that Sherman's losses by less than 5-10 points are a bit different than getting run out of the building giving up 50 points? The complaint that could be made against Sherman is that his team choked. But that Aggie team had no history of winning. I find teams choke before they are clutch. And Sumlin benefitted from swapping a serial choker in Tannehill for one of the all time clutch college QB's
If you give credit to a preceding coach for first years coach success, then you need to do the same for a first years coach's failures. You can't have it both ways really. Sherman was an excellent recuiter and did hand over a nice team over to Sumlin. But the guy was .500 with a losing conference record. No one cares how much they lost by, and neither should UT. And pretty much everything you're saying about Sherman at A&M can be said about Strong at UL, and Strong had way more success than Sherman did.
Holy hell dude why are you talking about mike freakin Sherman???? We're talking about bringing in whoever you want, dream coaches who btw Texas can easily go after, and we're here talking about Mike Sherman. Cmon man. Get it together.
This still doesn't make any sense. It's practical nonsense. A poor performance doesn't mean that his players aren't "following" him. It means that they are out of position at the snap of the call and their assignments are completely off based on the called play per the formation of the offense. Their schemes are awful and why they can't sack the quarterback. Have you ever played football? Who are the great "leader" coaches? What if I became their defensive coordinator? It would be a diasaster. Would that make them bad coaches? Only if they don't take action and fire my ass. Vince was the sensible hire since he was on Charlie's staff. He hasn't worked out and needs to be be fired today.
Is oakdogg really Mike Sherman? That's the only logical reason that someone could justify Sherman being the next head coach at Texas.
As the season gets more and more bleak, Texas boosters will get more and more desperate to make a change. I think they'll throw everything they can at Herman. Herman has all the cards in the negotiations. He's got a great situation. He's the hottest up and coming coach, saying all the right things to stay and be loyal to Houston. He's playing hard to get. He seems like he wants to stay in Houston, but I certainly wouldn't blame him if the boosters throw him a huge contract.
Texas expected to move on from Charlie Strong A high-ranking Texas official said on Sunday night that Strong is "very close" to losing his job at the end of the season after back-to-back road losses to Cal and Oklahoma State. The official said that there will be no move made during the year on Strong. Part of that comes from the fact that there's no logical candidate on the staff to take over the program. An announcement is also expected as soon as Monday that defensive coordinator Vance Bedford will be demoted after the Longhorns have given up 99 points the past two games. Strong is expected to take over play calling duties.
Kinda weird reading someone is "very close" to be being fired 3 months from now. With OU, BU, Tech, WV, and TCU left, Strong has his work cut out for him. Reading that in both the Cal and Ok St game, Strong forced Bedford to make some changes in the 2nd half. I know they have worked together a really long time but like Watson, Strong's loyalty to his guys continues to hurt him badly.
LMAO at Sherman talk? Or you freaking serious? Also LOL at those of you who were talking playoffs after beating Notre Dame (who has a god awful D) and UTEP. Get ready for an ass whipping but OU and Iowa State, at home. I maybe see three more wins. K State, Kansas and WV (only because this game is at home.) If Herman hasn't receive a secret note like in in fifth grade from someone in charge at UT then something is wrong. Strong does not belong coaching a top program. He just looks clueless. I will not be watching the OU game, absolutely zero interest in this mess of ****. The players are not following coaching, or the coaching is just that bad. Special teams, ****ing joke. Tackling, the basics of football, ****ing joke. Clock management, ****ing joke. UT Football, ****ing joke. Again.
I invite you to watch SEC Football in the state of TEXAS! Tennessee is coming to our beautiful state. How cool is that, a fun team like Tennessee, not the same old Kansas or Iowa State monotonous marriage sex matchups! REAL programs, REAL football. Sure, TAMU might lose, but it'll be FUN!
Regardless, the heat on Strong is very real, I’m told by sources at Texas. The feeling there was if he went 7-5 this season, he’d probably be safe. Now, it’s looking like Texas needs to get to 9-3. And even then, that might be enough, according to one source on Sunday. What changed? LSU and Tom Herman, answered the source. http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ls-best-qb-who-nobody-is-talking-about-100216 But the Longhorns brass is undoubtedly aware the time is probably now or never to go after Houston coach Tom Herman. LSU has already fired Les Miles, and Herman figures to be among the Tigers’ top targets. As a former Texas graduate assistant and offensive coordinator at Rice, Herman has strong ties to the state. He’s already demonstrated at Houston that he can recruit at an elite level. And on top of that, he's proven to be an elite coach, coordinating Ohio State’s national championship offense is 2014 before rapidly transforming Houston into a playoff contender. Herman would seem to be a perfect match for Texas. After all, there’s only one move left now that Texas can make. And that's moving on from [Strong]. http://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post...tor-move-charlie-strongs-job-on-line-at-texas
So you think Texas might be able to beat 4-0 West Virginia because it's at home, but will get their asses whooped at home by 1-4 ISU who lost to Northern Iowa?
